Well, that depends on what you need ... I got my LC-1 for $180. It doesn't have any type of display, but I only needed it for logging, so the display didn't interest me. you cannot get a Zeitronics for that price.

 

Glad I scored the AEM Uego when other said it was junk.. Not too bad after all.

 

Don't you need something else to log rpm & TPS or does the lc-1 also log that? Oh, I guess you could also use evoscan / mitsulogger to log that too.

 

I use EvoScan to log.

 

Interesting read.

 

I find it hilarious that innovate bought a 1/3 column ad payable to fordmuscle along this page here:



They also have google ads below that.

Biased marketing at it's best! Everyone is for sale...

 

Google ads are served up from keywords.

If you go to this page on the predator gas/diesel tuning product you will see the google ads change to diesel related ads:

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...cate/index.php

It also has a mustang in that article and a 175x385 ad comes up about a mustang which leads me to believe those ads are also being served up via keywords.

Welcome to the internet.

 

Any widedand company that buys add space must make real junk.


Or mabey Innovative is better?

 

The FAST meter also placed an ad in the magazine, yet it only scored a fourth place. They must not have paid enough

 

With a laptop my LC1 logs everything including 2 byte load and airflow this is with a realtime knock guage - cant beat that for $180. And I only paid $160 for the laptop

At least I feel it's better

 

Well I paid $570 for my then new Inspirion B130 and about $900 for the LM-1/LMA2 and two XD-16s. IMO, the laptop and the logging equipment are some of the best purchases that I have done

 

funny thing is I don't see Klause or fitz in other vendor threads bashing products

innovative products FTW!!!

 

Who cares?? I use a ZT2 and used to argue bout this ****. But to tell you the truth, It does not mater. I almost bought a LC1 because I was gonna put the zt2 in another car. The LC1 does stuff better then the ZT2 but the ZT2 can do thing the innovative products cant. Blah, blah They each have their high and low points. UCB, on norcalevo.net also brought up a bunch of good points about this newer test.

regardless, a test in a lab doesnt matter to me. What really matter is a results and there is a ton of fast cars and great tuners using both widebands, therefore I think either wideband is great.

ZEITRNOIX & INNOVATIVE FTMFW

 

The other thing that's always bugged me about that Import Tuner article (besides the language), is that half the sensors are mounted incorrectly and no mention of whether they rotated them to give every sensor a shot at different locations.

l8r)

 

location on a pipe filled with a gas should not matter. If it weren't for the possibility of condensation hitting the sensor there would not be a "bad" location on the pipe to mount it. So even if the test were done on a car, with real exhaust gas, location on the pipe would have no effect on the sensors readings. (During a test in which condensation could be controlled.) In fact since they mounted all the sensors close together there is less reason to complain about the outcome.

BUT the important thing is not which one is most accurate, the important thing is the tuner acknowledging that what the numbers are is secondary to what the motor is telling him. The numbers mean little until they are matched to the motor's wishes.
To that end the only important issue with a wideband is consistency.