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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 11:31 PM
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Help with fueling issues

Hey guys i'm having some fueling issues with the car right now. Even with the cells set at 7.4 i cant get my a/f to drop below 12 from 3k-5k rpms. above 5k the a/f is pretty normal even without the cells maxed. I have the timing reduced so i dont get much knock if any, but its worrisome. I would attach a log, but I'm not sure where to host it. any suggestion is helpful.

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invidia 3" catback
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 12:19 AM
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Lean spool enabled?...even though that still sounds a bit extreme for that to be the problem. This sometimes might also be a problem with the fuel pump, but after 5k your saying the AFRs are normal?
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 12:28 AM
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Lean spool is enabled. Yeah the curve is wierd it peaks at 12.3:1 3.5k then tapers down to 11.5:1 at 5k and 11:1 at 5.5k to redline. Seems like it would be flowing more fuel at higher rpm so if it was the pump it would be having problems there right?

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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 12:54 AM
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lean spool. 5k part is a little odd though.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 12:56 AM
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I had a ton of maxed cells in that range and it all went away once I disabled LeanSpool. Its not the pump and your AFR curve is exactly where I think it should be. Just try disabling LeanSpool and see how the results are.

What is your max injector duty cycle?
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:02 AM
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Disabling lean spool now and going to try it out. My injector duty cycle maxes at ~75% at 7k rpm.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:04 AM
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Psh, if they are stock injectors....its DEFINITELY not the pump.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:05 AM
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They're denso 720s
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack_of_Trades
Psh, if they are stock injectors....its DEFINITELY not the pump.
720cc stated in first post.

It's lean spool, saw it many a times on the dyno when the IX's first came out and started getting modded with more airflow and boost.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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I'm going right now to flash it and test it out.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dos531
They're denso 720s
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720cc stated in first post.

It's lean spool, saw it many a times on the dyno when the IX's first came out and started getting modded with more airflow and boost.
Damn. Its 4am here, yes I'm pulling that card,lol. Well, 75% on 720's is equal to 96% on stock 560's so the pump is completely fine, it'll be the LeanSpool. Good luck and keep us updated.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:29 AM
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Yep just did a couple logs and the a/f is way lower now. 11.2 @ 3.5k vs 12.3 @ 3.5k before. Now its just a matter of retuning the fuel map. Thanks a lot guys I cant tell you how much I appreciate it!
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Glad to hear it
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dos531
Lean spool is enabled. Yeah the curve is wierd it peaks at 12.3:1 3.5k then tapers down to 11.5:1 at 5k and 11:1 at 5.5k to redline. Seems like it would be flowing more fuel at higher rpm so if it was the pump it would be having problems there right?
Yeah I wanted to make sure that was correct...they had been one or two odd cases where the pump was behaving oddly (a good bit of the time because the correct walbro install kit was'nt ordered) but it would obviously be worse at high rpm . Anyway lean spool it was.
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