Help with scaling - FIC Bluemax 1450's
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You need to have it roughly +/- 5 on the longterm fuel trims. If you don't you get check engine lights for "rich" or "lean" conditions. Not to mention the car is working much harder to run correctly, and it will create throttle response issues and weird fueling situations.
anything within 3% is considered good but the closer to 0 the better.
So the final setup that you have done is this. nice! i might get this injectors then. that way i only need to buy injectors once.
91/93 oct
Scaling:1329
Latency: From the data sheet included with the injectors
2.784
2.112
1.680
1.368
1.176
0.984
0.816
e-85
Scaling:1008
Latency: From the data sheet included with the injectors
2.784
2.112
1.680
1.368
1.176
0.984
0.816
btw make sure you double check your trims and fuel after around 3 full tanks of e-85.
91/93 oct
Scaling:1329
Latency: From the data sheet included with the injectors
2.784
2.112
1.680
1.368
1.176
0.984
0.816
e-85
Scaling:1008
Latency: From the data sheet included with the injectors
2.784
2.112
1.680
1.368
1.176
0.984
0.816
btw make sure you double check your trims and fuel after around 3 full tanks of e-85.
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^^^^ These injectors will do you right. I'm seeing around 73% duty cycle at 25 psi on my 2.3L, and the GT3076 is very similar in flow to your Red. I did notice that the AF's raised at high RPM's compared to the pump gas profile (with the same mapped AFR values). So this points to a drop in fuel pressure. BUT, even though the profile of the AF curve "leaned" out the values were still rich. So I'll be able to tune a proper AF curve on a single Walbro at around 25 psi on E85. If I want to get my 30 psi on I'll need to add the second pump.
These injectors are a little easier to deal with on E85. The resolution for scaling around 1000 seems to be finer than up around 1300-1600 where the pump gas runs. It was some serious work to get them dialed in on pump gas. And from the results I've seen everyone has used different values to get the trims correct. But once dialed in they do drive nicely on both pump gas and E85.
These injectors are a little easier to deal with on E85. The resolution for scaling around 1000 seems to be finer than up around 1300-1600 where the pump gas runs. It was some serious work to get them dialed in on pump gas. And from the results I've seen everyone has used different values to get the trims correct. But once dialed in they do drive nicely on both pump gas and E85.
Last edited by jid2; Apr 3, 2009 at 01:56 PM.
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I ran out of fuel pump (stock Walbro 255) at 25 psi on E85, right around 460 whp. I'm putting in a single modified Walbro unit to see if that helps.


