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Old May 1, 2011 | 01:29 AM
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installed FP red and then tuned it...

OK so I installed an FP red 84mm comp cover today.
I then slowly increased boost until the injectors hit 100% duty cycle ( stock injectors )

Which happened at 21 psi...

I did notice something that I found interesting, I was able to run much more timing than on the evo 9 turbo with the same boost.

Also the car pulls like a beast

I have a set of denso 720's laying around but I am having trouble finding solid lateny numbers for them.
You thoughts????
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Old May 1, 2011 | 01:34 AM
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Get bigger injectors and then up the boost.
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Old May 1, 2011 | 02:27 AM
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Of course its making more power way less back pressure on the system increases flow in the engine resulting in lower combustion temps, increased timing, and better overall power.

Scale your denso's to about 660 and add around 400ms to all values in the latency table and go from there.
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Old May 3, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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OK so I installed an FP red 84mm comp cover today.
I then slowly increased boost until the injectors hit 100% duty cycle ( stock injectors )

Which happened at 21 psi...

I did notice something that I found interesting, I was able to run much more timing than on the evo 9 turbo with the same boost.

Also the car pulls like a beast

I have a set of denso 720's laying around but I am having trouble finding solid lateny numbers for them.
You thoughts????
well I can tell you from experience that you're going to definitely need bigger injectors...especially since you're almost maxing out the stockers at 21psi.
I had in a set of 780's with my Red and even with methonal injection I maxed those out at 28psi...I've now got in a set of 1K's
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Old May 5, 2011 | 09:18 AM
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Here is the dyno sheet.
EVO 8
FP red 21 psi
intake & exhaust
walboro 255
MBC
stock injectors 109% duty cycle LOL
all the timing it can stand
keep in mind that the car still has stock cams and 2 adults riding in the car thats why the weight is so high.



I am putting in FIC 1050cc injectors and switching to e85 later in the week will post that info as well.
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Old May 5, 2011 | 09:19 AM
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I am also going to tune it for pump gas too, I will post those results as well.
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Old May 7, 2011 | 12:15 AM
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OK so 1050cc injectors in, 24psi, 13 degrees max timing with -4 degrees at peak torque really rich 10.1 afr
This is my base line pull and its less power than the 21psi pull above due to much less timing and a real FAT afr.

will post next revision tommorow.
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Old May 7, 2011 | 02:30 PM
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-4 at peak torque?!
Are you on 93?
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Old May 7, 2011 | 02:44 PM
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Why on earth would you run -4* at peak torque on a Evo 8 with only 24psi peak?

What is your reasoning for this?
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Old May 8, 2011 | 12:56 AM
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its just a starting point relax guys Aaron@englishracing sent me the map and I am going to post each versions Virtual dyno until finished.
So just chill and watch...
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Old May 10, 2011 | 12:00 AM
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5 pulls today.

1st pull (red) was 24psi 10:1 AFR and 14 degrees max timing 0 degrees at peak load

2nd pull (blue) was 25psi 11:1 AFR and 14 degrees max timing 0 degrees at peak load

3rd pull (green) was 25psi 11.5:1 and 15 degrees max timing 0 degrees at peak load

4th pull (yellow) was 27psi 11.5:1 and 15 degrees max timing 0 degrees at peak load

5th pull (brown) was 30psi 11.5:1 and 11 degrees max timing 0 degrees at peak load



more pulls tomorrow to finish it up
then its E85 time!!!!!!!
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Old May 10, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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What does your boost curve look like with an FP Red? How well does it hold boost at redline?
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Old May 10, 2011 | 09:30 PM
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get some cams for that thing and a front mount should wake it up a bit
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Old May 11, 2011 | 03:22 AM
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why did you lose 20hp by going from 10.1 - 11.1afr, and +1psi? Are the colors backwards? It shouldve been the other way around...right?
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Old May 11, 2011 | 02:53 PM
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I gained 20hp after leaning it out
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