Any Interest in More Custom Pills?
 

Some of my friends want some custom pills and I have also got PMs from people who want pills.

I want to see if there is any interest in another round of pills. This time, however, I will only produce two sizes, #65 and #63. I believe that these two sizes are ideal for running on pump gas and 100 octane gas up to 24-25 psi boost. These two sizes were the first to sell-out last time.

I have been using the #65 pill with great results so far. This is on 91 octane gas.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/at...2&d=1183586586


As you can see in the screen shot above, I am able to hold boost @ 21-22 psi all the way to redline and close to 20 by cut off. There also room for a bit more with the WGDC not being maxed out. The load that I am hitting is also very close to the target load with BCLO set @ 100.

Bryan @ GST has also produced excellent resluts with a #63 pill. I am not sure about the pill size, but I am sure he will correct me if I am wrong.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...4&postcount=35

I am thinking about a batch of 15-20 pills. The number of 65 vs. 63 will depend on the demand from the people in this forum. I am not sure about the price this time around, but it will depend on the demand. The more demand the cheaper the pills. But a traget price is betweem $10-12.

So if you are interested, Please add your name to this list and repost it. Please make sure that you are committed to buy these pills.

CUSTOM BOOST PILLS LIST:

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills

I am running the #63 pill and with all max settings, and zero correction it was spiking 28psi taper to 20 at redline. (4th gear pull) Just to give an idea of how much headroom.

SQ

Thanks Nuked. By the way Nuked, could you post a link to you dyno chart so people can see how good those pills (as well as tuning) are in producing power?

sure thing...

greenish yellow line is boost on the chart.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...dyno071307.jpg

CUSTOM BOOST PILLS LIST:

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill

Which one would you recommend for stock turbo, 93 octane and around 22-23 lbs of desired boost?

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I would recommend a #65 pill. This way you will not max out your WGDC and have more room for higher boost in case you want to run on 100 octane.

Do you want me to add your name to the list?

So is #65 pill a smaller orifice than a #63 or the other way around?

I'm definitely in for one or the other, just not sure which one would be best yet. Any recommendations "nj1266"? My car is a Evo IX with TBE, K/N drop-in, Jestr Flash (adjusted by me).

I'm not necessarily interested in running that much more boost, but I'd like to get rid of some of the stock taper. I think 22-23psi tapering to 20psi by redline would be nice.

Would it be worth getting both the #65 and #63 pill?

What are the advantages running a #65 or #63 as opposed to a #57 in your original boost pill thread?

You can get either. According to Bryan @ GST (Razorlab), the #63 pill makes the boost curve a bit smoother than the #65 pill. The #65 pill has more room for upward adjustment for using race gas should you desire.

The #65 pill has a smaller orifice than the #63. I use the #65 pill and so does WORKS. Bryan uses the #63 pill. Both of them are good.

In my original thread I made #58 to #65 pills. The big advantage in number 65 and 63 pills over #58 is the ability to add more boost since you are not maxing out the WGDC tables. In the screen shot above I was able to eliminate taper from peak to redline with the #65 pill.

Ah, thanks for the info. {thumbup}

Now are you using #65 to both turbo and bcs or #65 to turbo and #63 bcs?

Thanks

The pill on the bcs side stays stock. You only change the pill on the turbo side.

I'd like one #63 please :).

CUSTOM BOOST PILLS LIST:

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65
4. codgi, 1 #63

Does the $10-12 price range include the hose or just the pill itself?

Just the pill. You will have to remove the stock pill from the hose and insert this one instead.

Put me down for a #65 pill please. Thanks! {thumbup}

CUSTOM BOOST PILLS LIST:

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65
4. codgi, 1 #63
5. RedV, 1 #65

I'll try one of each. Payment by paypal I presume?

Are they machine drilled or with a drill and drill bit?

CUSTOM BOOST PILLS LIST:

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65
4. codgi, 1 #63
5. RedV, 1 #65
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65

Yes payment will be by Paypal

Here are some pics of the first batch I made

http://www.sr20deracing.com/EVO/IMG_0296.JPG


http://www.sr20deracing.com/EVO/Img_0298.jpg

http://www.sr20deracing.com/EVO/Img_0299.jpg

CUSTOM BOOST PILLS LIST:

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65
4. codgi, 1 #63
5. RedV, 1 #65
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65

NJ let me know when the payment needs to be sent and the account to send to...thanks :)

I will inform everyone once I contact the machine shop. Right now we are @ 12 pills. I need to get to 15 pills so I can get the best price from the shop.

To all the guys who signed up, Please if you know of anyone whop wants ECU boost control tell them to add their names to the list. The more pills we make the cheaper each pill will become.

^^ Sounds good to me {thumbup}

#65 pill please add me too the list

CUSTOM BOOST PILLS LIST:

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65
4. codgi, 1 #63
5. RedV, 1 #65
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65

I need two more guys. I just got off the phone with the machine shop and he told me that he has everything ready to commence production of the pills. All he needs from me are the number of pills needed. So far we have 13. We need two more to get the best possible price.

You can change mine to both a #65 AND #63 instead of just the #65 if that'll help. :) Plus I'm asking my friend with a white MR if he's interested.

Hey, BTW... how easy is the pill by the turbo to remove? I know that the one by the solenoid can be a PITA.

I'm the friend with the white MR, I am in, just not sure exatly which direction I want to go.

What is the maximum boost and tapering characteristics of the 65 vs the 63? From the posts thus far it appears that the 65 is good for 22-23PSI max with a taper down to 20PSI? So same max boost as the stock EBCS running 100% WGDC, BUT has better tapering characteristics (only tapers to 20 as opposed to 17 or so stock). And the 63 is good for 28PSI with a taper to 20PSI?

I want the ability to run 25PSI with race fuel and a taper to 20PSI. I would most likely run 22-23PSI on the street and taper to 20PSI or so. Which pill do I want?

nj1266,

Sent PM

Add me for a #65

So this is how WORKS did it . . .

The smaller the orifice in the pill the higher the boost you can run. The #65 pill will allow you to run higher boost than the #63 pill w/o maxing out the WGDC. Nuked maxed out his WGDC in order to spike to 28 psi. You can do that with the #65 pill and run lower WGDC numbers in your rom.

I was able to hit 21-22 psi and hold it all the way to redline with the #65 pill on 91 octane gas. With higher octane I am sure I can run more.

Should I add you to the list for a #65 pill?

Removing the hose assembly is a PITA. The best way to do it is from under the car, but you will have to remove the tray which is another PITA :crap:

CUSTOM BOOST PILLS LIST:

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65
4. codgi, 1 #63
5. RedV, 1 #65
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65
10. Jorge, 1 #65

I think we have the 15 pills that we need. I will call the shop on Monday (closed on Friday) and give him the go ahead and the number of 63 and 65 pills we need.

Put me down on one #65 if possible

CUSTOM BOOST PILLS LIST:

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65
4. codgi, 1 #63
5. RedV, 1 #65
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65
10. Jorge, 1 #65
11. mplspilot, 1 #65

The more we have the better deal we can get. Hopefully, over the next 3 days more people will sing up.

Please put me down for both a 65 and a 63 as well. Also, I've added RedV's request for both a 63 as well as a 65.

CUSTOM BOOST PILLS LIST:

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65
4. codgi, 1 #63
5. RedV, 1 #65, 1 #63
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65
10. Jorge, 1 #65
11. mplspilot, 1 #65
12. Last4G63, 1 #63, 1 #65

19 pills total thus far... Nice!

CUSTOM BOOST PILLS LIST:

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65
4. codgi, 1 #63
5. RedV, 1 #65, 1 #63
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65
10. Jorge, 1 #65
11. mplspilot, 1 #65
12. Last4G63, 1 #63, 1 #65

Thanks for the update

Actually add a #65 for me too....just in case :).

CUSTOM BOOST PILLS LIST:

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65
4. codgi, 1 #63, 1 #65
5. RedV, 1 #65, 1 #63
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65
10. Jorge, 1 #65
11. mplspilot, 1 #65
12. Last4G63, 1 #63, 1 #65

Updates list

What kind of time frame are we looking at for delivery?

I will put the order in on Monday. When they are done, I will post the price per pill shipped to your door.

Paypal is the method that I like. Please use the free paypal service, since they will charge me otherwise.

Once I get paid, I will ship the pills to the address you designate.

All this should take a week.

Sounds great, thanks for the quick reply!

The pills are here :D :D :D

I just picked them up and they are perfect. The cost per pill is $10 shipped to your door.

Here is how you pay me:

1. Paypal free service. Please do not use their for pay service since I do not want to get charged for the transactions. Simply put, If you have a merchant account or pay by credit card via paypal, then I CANNOT accept your payment w/o upgrading my account. If I upgrade my account, then paypal will start charging me monthly fees. Send the payment to ndahi@charter.net

2. When you pay MAKE SURE that you have your name and address listed in the payment reciept that paypal sends me. Also MAKE SURE that you include your EVOM name and the pill(s) number in the SUBJECT line, eg, nj1266 three # 65 pills.

3. I will ship the package to the address on the paypal reciept once I get the payment.

4. If I have to ship outside the U.S., then the shipping cost will be added to the $10. I know there is one person in Australia. I will figure out the shipping cost once I get his address.

Updated list

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)
4. codgi, 1 #63, 1 #65
5. RedV, 1 #65, 1 #63
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65
10. Jorge, 1 #65 (paid)
11. mplspilot, 1 #65
12. Last4G63, 1 #63, 1 #65

Sweet! Payment sent!

Thanks again for providing this service to the EvoM community! {thumbup} :mitsu:

Updated list

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)
4. codgi, 1 #63, 1 #65
5. RedV, 1 #65, 1 #63 (paid)
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65
10. Jorge, 1 #65 (paid)
11. mplspilot, 1 #65
12. Last4G63, 1 #63, 1 #65

What is Paypal FREE service?

Payment sent Naji....I hope I used the correct one for "Send Money" :lol:.

Let me clarify this. If you have a merchant account or pay by credit card via paypal, then I CANNOT accept your payment w/o upgrading my account. If I upgrade my account, then paypal will start charging me monthly fees.

Hope that explains it.

Updated list

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)
4. codgi, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)
5. RedV, 1 #65, 1 #63 (paid)
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65
10. Jorge, 1 #65 (paid)
11. mplspilot, 1 #65
12. Last4G63, 1 #63, 1 #65

Payment Sent! Thanks! {thumbup}

Updated list

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills (paid)
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)
4. codgi, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)
5. RedV, 1 #65, 1 #63 (paid)
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65
10. Jorge, 1 #65 (paid)
11. mplspilot, 1 #65 (paid)
12. Last4G63, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)

Pm sent

Updated list

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills (paid)
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
4. codgi, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
5. RedV, 1 #65, 1 #63 (paid)(shipped)
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65
10. Jorge, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
11. mplspilot, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
12. Last4G63, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)

Updated list

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills (paid)
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
4. codgi, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
5. RedV, 1 #65, 1 #63 (paid)(shipped)
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65 (payment pending)
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65
10. Jorge, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
11. mplspilot, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
12. Last4G63, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)

i have a 9

i will be running, cams, WI, TBE, probably in the 26 PSI range, on 93 octane, would you recommend 65?

Thanks

I would like to order two 65 pills and one 63 pill, shipped to Norway. That is a total of USD 40. Will pay when you confirm (you have enough pills?). Thanks.

Updated list

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills (paid)
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
4. codgi, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
5. RedV, 1 #65, 1 #63 (paid)(shipped)
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65 (payment pending)
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65 (payment pending)
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65
10. Jorge, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
11. mplspilot, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
12. Last4G63, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped

All the pills are spoken for. If someone does not pay, then I will keep you in mind. Right now I want to give all those who signed up a chance to pay.

Updated list

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills (paid)
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
4. codgi, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
5. RedV, 1 #65, 1 #63 (paid)(shipped)
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65 (payment pending)
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65
10. Jorge, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
11. mplspilot, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
12. Last4G63, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)

alright so are all these spoken for or do you have any left, i will take #65

Updated list

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills (paid)
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
4. codgi, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
5. RedV, 1 #65, 1 #63 (paid)(shipped)
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65 (payment pending)
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65
10. Jorge, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
11. mplspilot, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
12. Last4G63, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)

Thanks for the contribution to the community!!!!

Checked the mail today and they were there...thanks Naji {thumbup}

Updated list

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills (paid)
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill (paid)(delivered)
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
4. codgi, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
5. RedV, 1 #65, 1 #63 (paid)(shipped)
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65 (payment pending)
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65 (payment pending)
10. Jorge, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
11. mplspilot, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
12. Last4G63, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)

Got the pill yesterday! Thanks, Naji! {thumbup}

Updated list

1. nj1266, 3 #65 pills (paid)
2. Pd1, 1 #65 pill (paid)(delivered)
3. chmodlf, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
4. codgi, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
5. RedV, 1 #65, 1 #63 (paid)(shipped)
6. FuelsResearch, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
7. Turbo81, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
8. NyC DrifteR, 1 #65
9. Zeus, 1 #65 (payment pending)
10. Jorge, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
11. mplspilot, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)
12. Last4G63, 1 #63, 1 #65 (paid)(shipped)

^^ mine is delivered to so you can update that.

Sorry, didn't realize I should post when I received my pill. :)

#65 Pill is in and I've been tuning my MWGDC/BDEL tables. I have one kinda OT question... have people been running this smaller turbo pill with the pill by the BCS removed or with the stock pill in place?

I had been running without the stock pill by the BCS, but I find with this smaller pill by the turbo that I'm not really able to tune for a nice smooth boost curve like i'd like. I'm going to try reinstalling the stock pill by the BCS and re-tuning my MGWDC/BDEL values.

Just wondering what other people are doing? nj1266? Thanks! {thumbup}

We keep the stock pill by the BCS for all our ecu-boost tuning. It smooths the curve and makes it much more consistant.

Thanks... the BCS pill goes back in tomorrow night (when I get back home). That's what I was planning on doing anyways to try and smooth things out a bit. Here's what a 3rd gear pull looks like with the 65 pill in place by the turbo and no pill in place by the BCS...

http://home.comcast.net/~keenerw/Evo...5Pill_Run1.jpg

I'm spiking a little higher than I'd like, and as the revs climb you can feel the BCS changing the level of boost. I'm looking to smooth things out and get a smooth curve that starts at ~22psi and tapers to just under 20psi by redline.

Yes that 4500 rpm dip will be gone with the pill back in.

I got mine Wednesday

Damn I just read they're pretty much all accounted for....

Let me know the next time you get some made... I'm looking for the lower boost one for now..... and then after a bit the 100 octane one :(

Got mine today. Cheers

Recieved!!

Got busy and sent my payment out late. I'll be the last to get mine... :(

Are these still available for order?

I have an extra #65, if someone needs it, PM me.

We also offer these pills as well if NJ is not doing it anymore.

Pill by itself or pre-installed in a brand new OEM boost assembly

http://www.gstmotorsports.com/store/...oducts_id=1050

http://www.gstmotorsports.com/store/...oducts_id=1058

seems like GST just bumped up their prices for these pills. they used to be $15 and now $18. They also bumped up the kit with the stock vacuum lines. =(

I sent NJ a PM months ago about these pills being available and he's never replied back. I guess he sold out off them.

shipping included now. :)