my first datalog =)
May 28, 2006, 01:14 PM
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ya i am going to be logging a number of times within a number of days, to get the effects of varying outside temps.
Also do you know where i can get a base 03/04 map. i have Al's flash, and i want to use the base map to compare fuel and timing maps.
Also do you know where i can get a base 03/04 map. i have Al's flash, and i want to use the base map to compare fuel and timing maps.
May 28, 2006, 03:03 PM
#17
Originally Posted by elhalisf
well, as long as egt temps are under 1600, then i should be fine, right?
May 28, 2006, 06:09 PM
#18
Originally Posted by mchuang
Your egts can also go high if you run to little timing as well. But like Malibu says log it. I just used an egt and wideband, but I am on 93, and I have a mail in that is suppose to be conservative so all I did was add a degree in the full throttle range, and monitor my egts to see if any significant changes from before. Other variables will also determine what amount of timing you run. Turbo size, compression, cams(which i dont have), plus we have ethanol haha which is suppose to be a lil harder to burn than reg gas
EGT is good as complimentary tuning / status device but I would never rely on it as the main tuning and status of whats going on.
I can tweak my car to knock to hell and pull a crapload of timing and you won't see the EGT change much or quickly. It was decent way back in the DSM days before alot of widebands and loggers where affordable and available but now I only use it as another piece of data.
May 28, 2006, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
EGT is good as complimentary tuning / status device but I would never rely on it as the main tuning and status of whats going on.
I can tweak my car to knock to hell and pull a crapload of timing and you won't see the EGT change much or quickly. It was decent way back in the DSM days before alot of widebands and loggers where affordable and available but now I only use it as another piece of data.
I can tweak my car to knock to hell and pull a crapload of timing and you won't see the EGT change much or quickly. It was decent way back in the DSM days before alot of widebands and loggers where affordable and available but now I only use it as another piece of data.
May 28, 2006, 07:08 PM
#21
Originally Posted by razorlab
No, every car is different. This is why when people get on here and state these kind of things , it really irks me. "hey, he's doing it no problem, I might as well too" then your motor melts.
Your car is different then someone elses car, regardless if the mods are the same or not.
Your car might be more sensitive in that area and knock to high heaven, or it might not.
That is why I feel logging is more important then anything if people want to start tuning their own cars. This is where true tuning knowledge starts building from.
Your car is different then someone elses car, regardless if the mods are the same or not.
Your car might be more sensitive in that area and knock to high heaven, or it might not.
That is why I feel logging is more important then anything if people want to start tuning their own cars. This is where true tuning knowledge starts building from.
May 28, 2006, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by elhalisf
what i meant is that i will be using the egt numbers to prevent my engine from blowing up, not to get maximum performance out of the engine.
May 28, 2006, 10:41 PM
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Does anyone know a good site where i can learn the basics of tunning. like timing, a/f ratios and fuel. i am looking to maximize my low and mid range torque.
May 29, 2006, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hondafan
well how can i trust an EFLASH! map from al then? i've always wondered even with his flashes how you can get a flash through the mail from a list of mods and it's safe for every evo with those mods. are the tunes that conservative or is it something else?
May 29, 2006, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MalibuJack
You should always get a custom tune if possible.. However there's alot left on the table with the stock ECU, and making minor tweaks to accomodate your mods, and not do anything too aggressively will gain quite a bit of power (at least 20whp) and therefore the mail flashes are generally safe in most instances. There are occasionally cars that are anomolous and will respond poorly to a through the mail flash, but generally the through the mail flashes are safe because they aren't aggressive enough to do damage (assuming the boost levels you are using are set according to the Tuner's recommendations)
May 29, 2006, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by elhalisf
ya i am going to be logging a number of times within a number of days, to get the effects of varying outside temps.
Also do you know where i can get a base 03/04 map. i have Al's flash, and i want to use the base map to compare fuel and timing maps.
Also do you know where i can get a base 03/04 map. i have Al's flash, and i want to use the base map to compare fuel and timing maps.
http://www.aktivematrix.com/UTEC/03Evo-Stock.zip
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