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TSComptuned 2.4LSR BR FF 6466 GSC S3 Cams E85 32psi | 744whp

Old Apr 13, 2014 | 07:10 PM
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that might be a baffle or something you're seeing there. you can drain the tank pretty much dry from using the drain plugs. if it's already low, the pax side may not even have anything to drain.

wth got in there?
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 07:40 PM
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I personally believe they are plugged up because you used the return line whereas you still pumped the crap through the pump filter. If I were you I'd drain both from the bottom, wipe out the inside, maybe splash a little more fuel in from the sender opening and let it drain into a clean bucket to make sure its all clean. Then replace the filters including the inline filter and you should be fine.
Ok thats what im going to do. I think theres dirt still down there sitting that is near the drain plug. I have no idea why i didnt drain that side via the drain plug. Newbie mistake i guess.

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that might be a baffle or something you're seeing there. you can drain the tank pretty much dry from using the drain plugs. if it's already low, the pax side may not even have anything to drain.

wth got in there?
I have no idea. it looked like complete **** before i did anything to it. i assume you checked the picture before i touched it. it looked like a swamp infested sewage drain.

I can only come up with this. the first time i took my car out i didnt have the wastegate setup right and it never opened up, and boost shot over 50psi and it went over a dirt bank and almost flipped. it got a ton of dirt under the car and i used a pressure washer to get it all out over the winter. I have the charcoal canister removed from the back and just had a hose with an opening, so i might of shot water and dirt up into the fuel tank from there.

I also think when i crashed the car when it came down really hard it knocked stuff loose in the tank quite possibly and caused it to stir around also.

the car has alittle more then a half a tank right now. i guess i could just drain it all then take it to a disposable place and pay for them to get rid of it.

I didnt open the drain plug at all on the driver side, and thats the side that was really bad. the passenger side was pretty clean from the beginning. the driver side really was dirty.

Im gonna drain it from the tank since it makes perfect sense that theres still dirt down there.

ya you're right also. i think they are just baffle tanks. we cant see under them because the drain plugs down there and it cant be seen from uptop.

Thanks guys i appreciate the help. AreSTG if you had this turbo on your car it would go 160 in full street trim. if you think about it that's insane!
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 07:44 PM
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do you guys think its still safe to partially drain the driver side with the return line to get it semi low so i can reuse the fuel since technically its being filtered through the fuel sock + inline filter? or do you think reusing this fuel even after filter is a bad idea?

if i can id like to just recycle the fuel back in the tank.
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 07:46 PM
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You should switch to a borg warner turbo ts setup kit. You will have faster spool up, and a more responsive car.

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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 07:57 PM
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this is to much already to be honest. i don't want more! i will probably change the springs out to run less boost on the street later on. im sure twin scroll gives more power though on part throttle / low end and such.

there seems to be no back pressure issues as is though. its holding solid boost straight across with no assistance.
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 08:11 PM
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I wouldn't reuse it. You've gone through too much work to even risk it having very small particals that could potentionally get back in the filters or even the filters in the top of the injectors. I would probably check the injectors to if it were me. No need to risk hurting a nice engine for something so easy to check.
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 1slow93turbo
I wouldn't reuse it. You've gone through too much work to even risk it having very small particals that could potentionally get back in the filters or even the filters in the top of the injectors. I would probably check the injectors to if it were me. No need to risk hurting a nice engine for something so easy to check.
damn alright. well the fuel coming out of the gas station pump has that yellow tint to it. when i put some of it in the e85 test tube the top part was yellow vs its normally clear like water from what i remember, but then again i didnt get e85 for over a year so i probably forgot what it looks like honestly.

the top part that displays the e85 content was the yellowish color. it tested 81% so theres plenty of ethanol in the gas. the bottom part was clear/foggy like it should be normally.

at the beginning it had clogged my 6 micron fiberglass filter in the inline. now it has a temporary paper 10 micron in it. i think the injectors are ok though since the micron is so low in the inline filter, i cant see anything getting past it. but you're right its probably best to check then risk blowing the car up.
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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E85 is for sure not yellow like that, at least here on the west coast. Looks like you have a ton of crud in there too but might just be the photo.
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 10:09 PM
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E85 is for sure not yellow like that, at least here on the west coast. Looks like you have a ton of crud in there too but might just be the photo.
Ya I don't remember it being yellow here either honestly. From pumping it right out of the gas station into 5 gal containers, i poured from the container into the e85 test tube and when it settled at the top it was a really strong yellow tinted color. the rest underneath was clear though. That's using the tester where you add water then check its ethanol content.
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 10:19 PM
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I haven't had E85 that color from Molly's. I would not reuse it. I don't know what I would do but I bet that is from having the ethanol in the tank while the car sat. There is probably crud under the baffles you can't see. I don't have a clue how to get it out. My buddy had a way worse tank and I swapped it out because I didn't feel that I could clean it well enough due to the saddle and baffles.
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 10:21 PM
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in that pic, thats also loose dirt sitting at the bottom of the tank. when i drained that part of the tank out i did it with the return line, and never opened up the drain plug. i think thats the mistake i made, and that's why its clogging once again. (i hope)

I am a bit paranoid at the yellow color though. When it was pumping into the gas containers it was coming out white, but once you shined a light down into the container, you could see that yellowish tint again.

im hoping the yellow is ok and that they just added some weird dye or something so they could mix the tank properly gas vs ethanol. im going to call the gas station tomorrow. its a membership station where you have to have a card to access the pumps, so hopefully they can confirm weather or not its ok or not.
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 10:23 PM
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BTW that is a metric ****-ton of power for 32psi!
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by batty200
I haven't had E85 that color from Molly's. I would not reuse it. I don't know what I would do but I bet that is from having the ethanol in the tank while the car sat. There is probably crud under the baffles you can't see. I don't have a clue how to get it out. My buddy had a way worse tank and I swapped it out because I didn't feel that I could clean it well enough due to the saddle and baffles.
I just responded below your response to in regards to Bryan's post again before i got the chance to see your post.

So you say the yellow tint means something is contaminated in the fuel? because thats what was coming out of that pump 100%. it was yellow tinted after i shined my light in the container to verify directly after pumping. I also poured it into a white bucket right at the gas station as well and it was a very strong yellowish color.

I'm getting it from Worley & obetz the one across the street from Giant in mount joy.

I don't think mines as bad as what you're describing. I hope not. I think the tank just has loose dirt still in it and the pumps are just slowly sucking it up and clogging the filters.
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 11:24 PM
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tom, you need to drop the tank and clean it proper. just draining leaves too much behind. flush with water from the top. add ball bearings or smooth rocks and agitate. flush, repeat. then dry with heat gun.. I have had to do this many times with older cars that sat up for a while.
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 11:50 PM
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If the ethanol is colored as it is pumped I wouldn't worry but loose dirt and gunk in the fuel tank is bad news. At the least drain and run water through for a long time to get it as clear as possible. Removing the tank sucks bad but it may be your only option. I highly recommend keeping a sealed evap system. That helps to prevent water from getting in the tank and causing corrosion.
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