Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe

tom, you need to drop the tank and clean it proper. just draining leaves too much behind. flush with water from the top. add ball bearings or smooth rocks and agitate. flush, repeat. then dry with heat gun.. I have had to do this many times with older cars that sat up for a while.

Originally Posted by batty200

If the ethanol is colored as it is pumped I wouldn't worry but loose dirt and gunk in the fuel tank is bad news. At the least drain and run water through for a long time to get it as clear as possible. Removing the tank sucks bad but it may be your only option. I highly recommend keeping a sealed evap system. That helps to prevent water from getting in the tank and causing corrosion.

Originally Posted by tscompusa

First I want to say, this car is not completed yet, but i love sharing stuff so i cant help myself but to post it in here for others to view even with an existing fueling issue still.

The entire goal for this car when building it this time around I had in mind of making it feel as responsive as my old 2.3 and fp black setup. Thats why i opted to the larger 2.4 displacement when going up a step with the turbo. I feel i more then exceeded my goals and my expectations so far.

The only negative thing here is, now that the car is this powerful in tq at such low RPM's it really makes it dangerous. I noticed right away i limited my ability with this car drastically now where i can and cant floor it, which really sucks.

but enough of the talk most of you don't read it anyways.

It is important you do read this however: This car has a current ongoing fueling issue. More on that is shown here https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/al...ntinued-7.html

Before the system clogged up again fully I got some decent pulls out of the car that i feel really show its potential so i want to show you guys so far what ive produced.

Car is still running break in SAE 30 brad penn oil as well.

TSComp 2.4LSR (Manley 28lb Billet SLW crank, turbo tuff rods, wiseco 9.7:1 hd pistons)
TSComp Cyl Head (Buschur port, polish, oring)(625+ ARP studs)
Buschur FF turbokit (PTE 6466 .82 AR vband / Tial 44mm WG)
Buschur Race FMIC
Buschur double pumper /w -8 AN Goodridge 910 kevlar teflon feedline
Stock feedline as return & Fuelab inline fuel filter
AMS Rail /w FIC 2150cc inj
GSC S3 cams
MAP rev3 intake mani + Fullblown 70mm
ETS upper ic piping /w Tial Q bov
Cobb 3" TBE /w BR vband downpipe
Shep ultimate ratio trans /w 4.11 FD
DSS carbon fiber driveshaft
Tephra v7 SD /w mbc only (wastegate pressure for now until i take some spring pressure out)

Theres more but i cant think right now. Heres two pics of engine bay also and then the graphs so far. I will post better results later on once i fix the fueling issue and get my afr in the 11.0-11.8 range.

So I got to load the car up a few times to see how responsive it was and it was pretty awesome.

This one i started at 4200RPM and it still hit pretty decent:



This one i loaded it up around 3500RPM and it really made a bunch of low end tq:



Thats almost 600wtq before 5k RPM in 3rd gear. Keeping in mind it does have a really long 3rd gear though, since its a 4.11 final drive.

Heres the engine bay for those who havent seen it yet:





Once I get the fueling issue fixed and feel more comfortable with the car ill go pro some videos to really show how hard this thing pulls.

Originally Posted by tscompusa

I didnt open the drain plug at all on the driver side, and thats the side that was really bad. the passenger side was pretty clean from the beginning. the driver side really was dirty.

Im gonna drain it from the tank since it makes perfect sense that theres still dirt down there.

ya you're right also. i think they are just baffle tanks. we cant see under them because the drain plugs down there and it cant be seen from uptop.

Thanks guys i appreciate the help. AreSTG if you had this turbo on your car it would go 160 in full street trim. if you think about it that's insane!

Originally Posted by EvOcHaRgeR

Are u runing an intake filter on your FF kit? Also, how come u choose the S3 cams instead of the R2 cams with your 2.4 stroker? Additionally, are cam gears not needed with gsc cams?

Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe

My comment was not to take away from these results at all. cause he is getting great torque from open scroll and 6466. for me looking at this build its pretty much " car gets what it needs, cost and time not a factor" . with no a/c and half radiator, I would have used the 9180 on this setup. theres no question in my mind the results would be superior in the response department. how much I dont know. to be honest there has only been one decent EFR build on these forums. and that was the first 7670 done at roadrace over three years ago. I want to see someone with good build knowledge setup a 8374 or 9180. I truly think it would change the game. people do choose parts largely from seeing results posted. What i can only know for sure is everyone who tried one has the same comment. "you have to drive it to understand" the dyno graphs are not displaying the whole picture. here is a juicy 8374 on a 4g63. really no other 700hp turbo on these forums comes close to spool like this. regardless of whether dyno reads high or low you only have to look at the sharp climb in torque curve. sucker builds torque fast.

Originally Posted by Cannonballer

??? Last week you stated a dyno dynamics chart was invalid because, among other things, it made a FP Green spool too fast. This week you post a dyno dynamics chart to show the superior spooling abilities of a different turbo?

Originally Posted by batty200

I can't wait. 700-750 is the goal for my car so if I can see how I like it riding in yours that will be a great idea. I can't wait to install my 4.11 and new synchros plus new clutch. My sychro in 4th is dead!

Originally Posted by AreSTG

yeah, so the drain plug on pax side if it even had fuel, was all getting syphoned over to driver side, could have taken most/all the debris over to driverside.

I also highly recommend not reusing the drained fuel. forget the time/effort invovled and look at just the cost. No way a couple of gallons of E85 (that's supect anyway due to it's odd color AND known debris in it) is worth the motor, injectors, pump, lines, who knows what.

The 6466 is definitely tempting. Refreshing my motor right now, we think I've beaten it long and hard enough now that it's better to be safe. It has me definitely contemplating new turbo options. Mostly, I'm not changing to another "stock appearing" turbo, because I don't like the direction they've gone. They're still stock flanged, but not remotely stock appearing. So if I move up from the black, it'll probably be to a 64mm turbo. But, that means it's definitely cage time, and there goes my "Street trim" setup. Decisions...

Also, seen a couple of posts from Bryan recently. Welcome back?

Originally Posted by badev0

You're welcome for the CBRD half rad

Originally Posted by cursedsm

You can see in the pic he is running a filter off the turbo. R2 cams in my opinion aren't that great compared to the s3. They seem to be like the s2 rather then the s3. Besides that Tom's 2.4 isn't a stroker.

Originally Posted by tiggeryellow1

All very interesing... I want to see what the fueling issue ends up being.

Originally Posted by SiriusEvo

Awesome power and response man, the 2.4L motor is a beast, especially with a V-band Turbine housing. It is amazing how responsive the turbo is.

Good call on the S3's, stroker motors LOVE big cams!

E85 makes lots of Torque when you run it lean like that, be careful