Tim's Evo 8 Spec-Ops 2.4LR, DBB FP Black, 93oct results.....
Jun 24, 2012, 09:26 AM
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Tim's Evo 8 Spec-Ops 2.4LR, DBB FP Black, 93oct results.....
Tim came to us awhile ago and talked to us about doing his build. He asked if we could build him a 2.4LR and get him to his goals and we welcomed the challenge. Tim's car was our first 2.4LR we had done as we have been building our own 2.0, 2.0LR and 2.3 strokers for the past year and a half, while still offering other companies blocks/products as well. I'll be making a seperate thread in the Evo 8/9-engine/drivetrain section on our blocks and our success's as to not steer away too much on Tim's thread.
This car is fully built and Tim is the kind of guy that likes to see different combinations of parts to see how the car performs. Since we have built the car, we have swapped out the Kelford 272's for the GSC s3 cams. While it was on the Kelford 272's, it seemed to be low on power and making 470hp/414tq on the same boost levels. Now, at the time of install, we hadn't heard about the Fidanza cam gears being a tooth off. On Tim's build we are using the Evo 9 timing belt and as you know, with the cam gears you set them 3.5-4.5 degrees of retard. His were set to 3.5 which was actually 2.5 degrees. The car spooled quick as hell but the power up top never seemed to be there.
Freddie was up this weekend from FL so he could do some things to his Evo 8 (head and ER water pump install) and he brought it to our attention while installing the new cams that the Fidanza cam gears were a tooth off. So, we set his cam gears to the right settings (we went actual 4 degrees retard this time) and had great results on the new cams and the car scoots better now than before. Here is his results and mod list:
-Spec-Ops 2.4LR (acl race bearings, manley turbo tuffs, wiseco 1400hd's)
-Buschur Racing s3 head (modified for 87mm)
-Gsc s3 cams
-ETS stock location manifold (1.25" runners)
-DBB FP Black ported
-CBRD o2/downpipe vband combo
-Spec-Ops 3"-3.5" vband cat delete
-3.5" ETS vband Catback
-Magnus Intake Mani
-Ported 65mm t/b
-DW 300 w/STM rewire kit
-FIC 1100 High Z injectors (74% IDC in this VD graph)
-ETS 4"FMIC w/IC piping and Tial QR
-ETS 3" intake w/maf
-Hallman MBC@31psi
-Shep 4.11 trans and s3 tcase
-93oct and tuned by Matt
VD graph on 93oct (1*peak and 11* up top):
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Pic of engine bay:
In closing, I recommended that we swap the Tial QR for the Synapse DV w/tial flange adaptor to hold boost better. That'll be our next test on the car and see what the difference is, if any. Thanks again Tim for choosing us for your build and we appreciate working with you!
-Matt
This car is fully built and Tim is the kind of guy that likes to see different combinations of parts to see how the car performs. Since we have built the car, we have swapped out the Kelford 272's for the GSC s3 cams. While it was on the Kelford 272's, it seemed to be low on power and making 470hp/414tq on the same boost levels. Now, at the time of install, we hadn't heard about the Fidanza cam gears being a tooth off. On Tim's build we are using the Evo 9 timing belt and as you know, with the cam gears you set them 3.5-4.5 degrees of retard. His were set to 3.5 which was actually 2.5 degrees. The car spooled quick as hell but the power up top never seemed to be there.
Freddie was up this weekend from FL so he could do some things to his Evo 8 (head and ER water pump install) and he brought it to our attention while installing the new cams that the Fidanza cam gears were a tooth off. So, we set his cam gears to the right settings (we went actual 4 degrees retard this time) and had great results on the new cams and the car scoots better now than before. Here is his results and mod list:
-Spec-Ops 2.4LR (acl race bearings, manley turbo tuffs, wiseco 1400hd's)
-Buschur Racing s3 head (modified for 87mm)
-Gsc s3 cams
-ETS stock location manifold (1.25" runners)
-DBB FP Black ported
-CBRD o2/downpipe vband combo
-Spec-Ops 3"-3.5" vband cat delete
-3.5" ETS vband Catback
-Magnus Intake Mani
-Ported 65mm t/b
-DW 300 w/STM rewire kit
-FIC 1100 High Z injectors (74% IDC in this VD graph)
-ETS 4"FMIC w/IC piping and Tial QR
-ETS 3" intake w/maf
-Hallman MBC@31psi
-Shep 4.11 trans and s3 tcase
-93oct and tuned by Matt
VD graph on 93oct (1*peak and 11* up top):
-
Pic of engine bay:
In closing, I recommended that we swap the Tial QR for the Synapse DV w/tial flange adaptor to hold boost better. That'll be our next test on the car and see what the difference is, if any. Thanks again Tim for choosing us for your build and we appreciate working with you!
-Matt
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Jun 24, 2012, 09:52 AM
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Great build though, I really like seeing pump gas numbers and realistic builds.
Also, do you really think the Synapse DV will hold boost better than a TiAL?
Jun 24, 2012, 10:03 AM
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Do the rules state that the MAF has to be there? I would think with the mods the car already has, it would put him in a class where it doesn't matter if the MAF is there or not.
Great build though, I really like seeing pump gas numbers and realistic builds.
Also, do you really think the Synapse DV will hold boost better than a TiAL?
Great build though, I really like seeing pump gas numbers and realistic builds.
Also, do you really think the Synapse DV will hold boost better than a TiAL?
As far as the Tial QR, I don't like them as well as the Tial Q's on a SD car. For the recirc/maf setups, we have had better success/results on the Synapse DV's. I do believe the synapse would work better.
Thanks for the props! Tim will be satisfied with the new found power/tq with the new s3 cams. It really woke up that 2.4l for sure.
-Matt
Jun 24, 2012, 12:49 PM
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Its not about the rules persay, its more my preferance/recommendation as the tuner that he use the MAF for his particular use of the car.
As far as the Tial QR, I don't like them as well as the Tial Q's on a SD car. For the recirc/maf setups, we have had better success/results on the Synapse DV's. I do believe the synapse would work better.
Thanks for the props! Tim will be satisfied with the new found power/tq with the new s3 cams. It really woke up that 2.4l for sure.
-Matt
As far as the Tial QR, I don't like them as well as the Tial Q's on a SD car. For the recirc/maf setups, we have had better success/results on the Synapse DV's. I do believe the synapse would work better.
Thanks for the props! Tim will be satisfied with the new found power/tq with the new s3 cams. It really woke up that 2.4l for sure.
-Matt
Jun 24, 2012, 01:48 PM
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Big thanks to Matt and the crew at Spec Ops Motorsports. Been a windy road getting the car where it is now, and I appreciate everything along the way.
I think when the dyno gets in, I just may have to get a tune from you on E85, just to see what it actually does.
-Tim
I think when the dyno gets in, I just may have to get a tune from you on E85, just to see what it actually does.
-Tim
Jun 24, 2012, 02:07 PM
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Car is a beast guys! Also I look forward to seeing Tim's new track wheel set up... He hot some 295 hoosiers on RPF-1s and we hooked him up with a set of R/TErnie's custom rear trailing links as well!
**Tim we need to wait to get the trailing links in so we can install them and fit the wheels and drop the car to see if you are going to have to invest in coilovers... those wide tires may or may not hit the rear spring/perch**
**Tim we need to wait to get the trailing links in so we can install them and fit the wheels and drop the car to see if you are going to have to invest in coilovers... those wide tires may or may not hit the rear spring/perch**
Jun 24, 2012, 02:13 PM
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Now, at the time of install, we hadn't heard about the Fidanza cam gears being ONE HALF off PER GEAR. On Tim's build we are using the Evo 9 timing belt and as you know, with the cam gears you set them 3.5-4.5 degrees of retard. His were set to 3.5 which was actually 2.5 degrees. The car spooled quick as hell but the power up top never seemed to be there.
Freddie was up this weekend from FL so he could do some things to his Evo 8 (head and ER water pump install) and he brought it to our attention while installing the new cams that the Fidanza cam gears were a ONE HALF TOOTH off PER GEAR. So, we set his cam gears to the right settings (we went actual 4 degrees retard this time) and had great results on the new cams and the car scoots better now than before.
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Jun 24, 2012, 02:49 PM
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Matt...what's yalls status on the dyno?
Bern