This post is only to illustrate what is possible on certain quality pump gas fuel.





I've built a setup specifically and with the sole purpose of pushing and finding the limits of pump gas fuel over here.


I've used VD to measure the results :


On Dynojet mode on smoothing 6

Weight of the car is in Kg, with 3/4 of fuel and driver
plus laptop and rest of gear. Temperature is in Celsius.







Boost is at 2.52bar, with a spike at 2.56 :











Unfortunately VD will not display boost as it should through the power fc log file, hence the above picture.


Fuel is 98+ pump gas.


Car is a 2003 Evo 8, 6-speed.














Marios

 

yeah pushing 37 psi on pump gas....even the best quality pump gas on an evo not possible

I smell extremetuner type of bs here

unless you are pushing meth

why dont you list mods and turbo....

also dont know how that 6 speed will stay together

 

Listen mate, you have every right to doubt facts you have not accomplished or seen accomplished, but do not for a second judge me or my doings by your own ability or the ability of anyone you know obviously.


Now be proper when you post on here so others will be proper to you. This is no BS, I have done a lot of hard work on the setup to manage such a result from pump gas. There is no meth in the mix, this is straight pump gas numbers.


I might know the guys in E.T, but I do not work for E.T nor has this setup anything to do with them. E.T are also the current quarter mile record holders, are they not?



The max boost I've run on pump gas, is actually higher, at 2.64 bar.




As for the 6-speed, it will hold together just fine, as it has since 2005 when I took it apart and did some certain work on it. My car has never been stock either, since day 1.








I will not post mods or turbo as this is not your everyday average setup, a lot of knowledge, experimentation and hard work has gone into it.



If people wish to see this done, especially shops, they need to try it for themselves.










Marios

 

Seems like something extremetuner would say with their super turbos and ect. Dont understand what there is to hide.


I dont understand the point of this post if you arent sharing mods or at least size of turbo. Amazing what goes on in the Eastern Mediterranean sea.

 

The point of the post is to show what it is achievable on good quality pump gas.



This forum as any other public forum is being viewed by shops as well, not just by your everyday fellow evo enthousiast. But I'll tell you what though, if you ever decide to make something like this happen, p.m on here and I'll let you know everything you need to know about the matter.




It is not about hiding things, it is about not allowing others to copy your work, and I'm mostly referring to shops, when it is something that has gone beyond what has already been achieved. For instance if E.T revealed everything about their setup, then they might not have been the current record holders. Also other shops would use that info and R&D towards their benefit and profit without actually spending the time , the effort, or the dime on it. I am the type of guy that likes to help people, and I have done regarding the evo world as well, for many years, through forums and not just. There are though certain things that one should keep for himself.



I will though reveal this, the turbo is a custom made hybrid, of comparable physical size to a gtx4094r but with better overall characteristics and cfm output.









Marios

 

Thanks for posting up Marios

Maybe we can learn a thing or 2 from you EvO guys across the way

 

So are you going to post any information or just act condescending and arrogant?

Those are great numbers, unbelievable numbers. So much so that obviously people will doubt the validity of it. When questioned on it you simply go on a tirade. I dont buy your reasoning for not at least giving enough detail to make it seem vaild.

Great, you claim to have made 800 on pump. Good for you. Thanks for backing up that claim with nothing more then vauge statments and poor arguments for why you won't share more. Don't show us the timing map. How about you show us the set up on the car? You must have a very radical and efficient set up to make those numbers on pump. I can't believe you didn't reach the knock threshold running 38psi.

 

E85 is pumpgas over here. wassup?

 

Thank you. I read this forum every day and research. I follow big builders like STM, Buschur, AWD Motorsport, AG Autosport, Kings performance, Boosting, ER and TPG. Its hard for me just to accept info because some one says it is so with out a proven reputation. I also do my own tuning dont consider myself a tuner but am not ignorant and can hold my own. If you are going to make big claims have at least evidence.

 

The only one being arrogant here is you who will not accept what is as it is and uses foul ways to extract info in a demanding manner. No I won't be posting any more info, that's all I wish to share.




I do not need to back up anything in order to convince people such as yourself or anyone else on the matter. I'm not a tuner by trade, I do not own a shop and I have no reason whatsoever to engage myself in such a process. I explained on my previous post what I share and what I won't and why.
The only one I wish to actually convince and prove things to, is to my own self and I have achieved that. What I do here is merely share the results as a reference point of things. My statements and my arguements seem vague and poor due to the mind that perceives them, but are far from that.



The VD graph is the best evidence, or do you want me to come over there and bring the car to run in one of your tracks?


To the knowledgable person the graph itself in combination to the size of the turbo I gave, tell a lot.











Marios

 

A VD graph...really?? . You do realize how easy it is to manipulate a VD....right? You don't owe anybody any explanation. Just don't be so surprised that people don't believe your outlandish claims.


Thank you for humbling us with your pictures of grandeur, oh great tuner of Evo's.

 

I can do a 2nd gear pull

Put normal weight, normal air pressure and tire sizes....

a 300 whp car on a 2ndo gear pull will be 650 whp lol

 

Being a little ***** serves you no good. Any dyno can be manipulated whether it is VD or real, giving any results the user wishes.


And the same can be said for any dynoplots posted on here.




I could not care less for what people take my results.









Marios

 

If you could care less, why not go ahead and bring it over here to a stateside setup, and prove your worth? ya know, like you threatened to do.

 

If it is just a matter of finding out the limits then its appreciable and we can learn a thing or two.

I have run 2.3 Bar Boost with a Spike of 2.4 Bar on Crappy 93 Octane. However, i could n0t feel the power and felt it was on the edge.