Can you have the turbo timer installed without connecting the auto start for the viper 791xv system?

 

Yea Im not exactly sure how but I have an alarm with a built in TT. I dont have the remote start hooked up.

 

how do you have a remote start with a manual

 

Don't know, my buddy is at best buy now and they said they wouldn't hook up the remote start to the manual because of safety issues. (yes it can be done)

 

you can not use the turbo timer feature in a viper 791 without hooking up the external remote start relay pack.

 

yes you can, all you have to do is program the brain. look in the manual. you will need your valet switch to program it...

 

shops will not install a remote starter on a manual...cause of safety and they dont want to b held liable if ur car is in first gear and u auto start it.....also shops WILL do it under the table...lots of shops out the the city "CHICAGO" ...will and have done it to some of my buddies cars

 

no you can't. trust me. i've been installing professionally for years. the brain only has constant input for the alarm. it has no outputs to support running a motor. to keep the car running with this setup you need to connect the relay pack as well as the tach wire. on the relay pack, you will need to connect AT LEAST the two 12v constant leads and the 12v switched power lead. that is if you want to use it just for turbo timer as the turbo timer will not require a starter connection (you won't be cranking), and will not require first or second accessory leads (because you wont need to power the hvac system or other stuff like the radio).

once that is all set, you will still need to set the tach rate via the valet switch (or a dei bitwriter if you had access to one). the turbo timer setting is adjustable for 1, 3, or 5 minutes. then when you are ready to get out of the car, just hold channels 3 and 4 (trunk and star) together. you will hear a beep and if ignition controlled unlock is setup, the locks will unlock. you can now remove the key

 

Well said but you left out one important note. Neutral safety switch needs to be installed or grounded for turbo timer / remstart to function. You can also program the brain for voltage sense if you are doing turbo timer only, tach sense won't grind starter, but neither will voltage if programmed correctly. And yes retail stores will not install remote start in a manual transmission vehicle.

 

Yeah I did forget about the neutral safety switch. Can't be perfect all the time. lol. I was just basically making the point that it can be done. I knew I missed some steps. And as for the voltage sense, I never use it on any vehicle I do a remote start on unless the tach is in some hard to reach/find place and the fuel injectors can't be reached. And for safetys sake, you should install a merc or pin switch under the hood to prevent any accidents that could possibly occur via opening the hood while the turbo timer is running. I prefer a merc switch do to it beter construction and longevity.

 

Well you dont need an extra relay to use it as a turbo timer, only for the remote start. cause you obviously dont need to touch the clutch when you turn off the car, you just turn the key. so to activate the tt you would set it as an auxillary on the remote controll and press them button when shutting off the car. the system should be built into the brain. what i meant earlier is that you can have the system (if hooked up with the tach, 12vs you use for the alarm and keyless so its already hooked up) and still use the turbo timer without having the acutal remote start system working. I think he just wants to have it so that its legal and keep the benifts the system has.

 

i never said he needed to add an extra relay. i said he needed to install the remote start relay pack to get the turbo timer to work. there are two pieces to that system. a alarm brain and a remote start relay pack.

i also told him the minimum wiring needed to get it to work. the only thing in the brain that has to do with the turbo timer is the time setting. please don't post things unless you are certain that the information is correct. people get mislead that way.

 

well i am sorry i misread your first quote of mine.

i originally posted correct information, but i should have put that you need to hook up a few things. i wasnt posting up incorrect information though...

sorry for the confusion

sarah

 

i just got the viper 971 put in yesterday and yes i would like to use the tt and i dont care to use the remote start. you guys gave good info but this doesnt sound easy .anyone know a place in the ny that would hook that up for me ?

 

just find a place that would install a remote start on a manual and you should be ok. if you have the remote start hooked up, but don't have the clutch bypassed, you dont' have to worry about the remote start. the turbo timer would still work this way as well.