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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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Coaxials all around?

Is anyone just running coaxials all around?

I'm thinking about getting Alpine type R's and just swapping them and calling it a day. I will by amping them and adding a 12" sub (most likely a DVC type R).

I went component in my 3kGT but I don't have the time or the garage to put in work and take stuff apart like I used to.

Just wondering...
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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I don't bother with replacing rear fill if I don't need to. I didn't do anything crazy in my Evo. I just swapped the front speakers for Eclipse 3 way's and an Alpine HU. Didn't sound incredible or anything, but definitely far better than stock.

Best sound is going to be from a good set of components and an amp IMO.
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Old May 1, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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Yea, best sound would obviously be components and an amp, I'm just wondering about people's experiences with non-component speaker upgrades since I'm not gonna have time to do it or the money to pay someone else.

Anyone else?
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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i got pioneer 3-ways all around...sounds fine to me....i added two pioneer 12" subs in the trunk for more bass too cuz just with the coaxials it sounded fine when the engine wasn't running but when the road noise hit the bass would disappear
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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I'm pretty sure the Type R coaxes aren't going to sound much different than the Type R components, other than being able to mount the tweeter remotely. Although if you're already going to replace the door speakers, putting tweeters in the stock locations isn't much more work.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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only reason i didn't run components is cuz you need an amp to power the component speakers cuz they require more watts nominal than what the hu puts out...the 3-ways can be powered by the hu only...(i'm talking about pioneer speakers i dunno about other brands).....they are 35w nominal and 180w max...the 4-ways and the components are 50w nominal and like 230watts max...i dunno it may work but i dunno...also the 3 ways cost about $75 for all 4 of them from wal-mart which would be almost half the price of putting 2 component setups and 2 coaxials....anyways the 3 ways sound fine..i just unplugged the tweeters

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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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i wouldnt do the type rs unless you amp them.... you wont be as happy with the sound quality, and you are more likely to do more damage to them by not amping them. I had all alpine stuff in my evo (type r components, rears, 4ch, mono and 12" type r, cda9855 amp link, ipod stuff etc) LOVED it all. Now they are making good paperweights in my office.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 11:38 PM
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cool paperweights
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kilgoja
only reason i didn't run components is cuz you need an amp to power the component speakers cuz they require more watts nominal than what the hu puts out...the 3-ways can be powered by the hu only...(i'm talking about pioneer speakers i dunno about other brands).....they are 35w nominal and 180w max...the 4-ways and the components are 50w nominal and like 230watts max...i dunno it may work but i dunno...also the 3 ways cost about $75 for all 4 of them from wal-mart which would be almost half the price of putting 2 component setups and 2 coaxials....anyways the 3 ways sound fine..i just unplugged the tweeters
Make sure you fully understand wattage of whatever receiver you plan on running. if something is advertised as 50 watts x 4, it is more like 20 watts x 4. That 50 watts is not continuous power. However, I have never seen a receiver with internal amplification that can't adaquetely power a coax.....that being said, the coax or any speaker for that matter will really open up and sing when you give continuous power around 75 watts or higher RMS (which is why I always use external amplification regardless of receiver)
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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um yeah that was the point i was trying to make....the hu doesn't put out enough watts to run components very well...but it works for the coaxials
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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I know, but I didn't want you to be blinded by big numbers on boxes and think the coaxs are going to be an amazingly huge difference in sound when compared to a set of components when being powered by internal amplification (it won't...I know from experience). Internal amplification will work fine on both components and coax's, however, at higher volume the components will be more prone to clip because you aren't feeding them enough power. In terms of sound quality, that really is a toss up especially if you are looking at the same line of speaker. Again, external amplification is the best option....it will protect your speakers better (i.e. less chance of clipping with a proper setup and tune)....it will provide significant overhead for power if you get the right amp (no, you can't overpower a speaker....that is a myth perpetuated by those that think the best adjustment level of an amp is everything on max. When adjusted right, extra power will lead to cleaner sound with less distortion, however underpowering will lead to speaker damage in the long term if played at high volumes). If you are dead set against doing external power for the main's and will only use power from the HU, I would recommend coax's strictly due to them not costing as much. Due to the limited power being provided to them, you will not be able to hear a difference in sound quality regardless of whether it is a component or coax of the same series. If you do, you are either tricking yourself (think: butt dyno) or it is the different soundstage (tweeter in the pillar as opposed to the bottom of the door). In addition, if you do end up playing them at high volumes and they clip to the point of damage, it will be less expensive to replace most likely. I guess in a way, yes, I am validating your decision to go with coax's. However, I'm looking at it more as a cost savings, not for the reason that would be a night and day difference over a set of components being powered of a HU.
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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yeah ok...i don't blast my radio anyways...kinda hurts my ears....lol....i already have coaxials...this thread was started by another guy...i dunno where he went..he hasn't responded..haha
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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im running kappas 2way coaxils all around. with a clarion hu. It sounds good. But since i have an 75 rms x 4 amp and a 300rmsx1 just sitting there. I will add it soon.
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kilgoja
yeah ok...i don't blast my radio anyways...kinda hurts my ears....lol....i already have coaxials...this thread was started by another guy...i dunno where he went..he hasn't responded..haha
haha! wow.....I REALLY should pay closer attention to threads....I was confused because I thought you were the original poster and had said that you had an amp in the first post, but then said you were going to power off the HU
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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haha...np man...my setup is pioneer everything...hu, 4 3-way coaxials, 2 12" subs...i got one of those orion cobalt amps...have to keep the sub volume kinda low or it will overpower everything...lol...one thing i like about the amp is it has a remote subwoofer volume control...i screwed it under the guages at the bottom of the dash...just misses the ashtray when u open it... it really comes in handy...cuz different cds and music has different bass levels on the cds...so u can turn it up and down easily without having to mess with those stupid gain controls on the amp...also the hu has built in crossovers too at 50hz,80hz, and 125hz...i usually keep it on 80hz..i got the amp crossover on about 85 or 90...it really sounds nice

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