It's all written in german in the back, but if someone wants a translation for it post up. The pic didn't come out for the back. I talked with evorent about this oil and he said thats the only oil he would use. I just changed my oil about 2 weeks ago and the Mobil 1 that was in it for 2500 miles was like water, not the protection I was really looking for.

This stuff is not cheap. It only comes in 2l containers and is right around $25 for 1 container.

 

Why? the factory M-1 is fine.

 

First off I have a big racing season coming up. I have quite a few track days at Road America that I want to attend. And of course autocross.

Here is a oil fourm that talks about auto oil, some in great detail.

http://forums.noria.com/eve

 

That is the "good" stuff. Big $$$ though.

Motul rules all.

 

let us know how it works out for you. whats the big diffrence?

 

FWIW-

I havent tested the oil your showing above or any motul product, however I have tested numerous synthetic oils & I have only found 2 that have made more power than 0w/30 mobil1 on an engine dyno.

If your going to be tracking your car, I highly recommend the mobil1 0w/40 over the 0w/30. We measured 0.7 kw down from the 0w/30, but internal components looked much better after durability testing: lifter buckets, cam lobes & bearings. The test's that I am refering to was run with oil going into the engine was @ 120c.

We have run races with debris in the radiator ducts, oil temps would exceed 132c in temps, no appreciable wear was noted during teardown.

It's hard to believe that "off-the-shelf" mobil 1 is sooo good, but it is.

Good Luck with your oil choice.

 

I don't track my car, but with the Mobil 1 10w30 I'm getting really low oil pressures when I come to a quick stop or even a slow stop my oil press. drops below .50 bar. At idle it is at a steady .75 - 1 bar. I know this is a bit off topic, but should I try 10w40?

 

great stuff I ran that oil in my type R for years I will use it in future.

 

I think I'm pretty much through with the M1 line. I'm not looking to get that 1-2 HP that some people think they get from changing oil, thats not it's function. What I am looking for is durability and life. Your are talking about tests that lasted for how long? I would say less than 100mi, then you are doing a complete tear-down of the engine, I wouldn't call that a test. I think you should be changing your testing ways.

 

Good stuff!

Have you ever tried the AMSOIL Series 2000 Synthetic 0W-30?

Give it a try if you are going to track your car.

 

Almost did until the Amsoil sales person opend their mouth. Turned me off to the product.

 

If you don't mind me asking...

What happened?

 

I can't remeber where it was at. This was about 2 years ago in the Nissan Z days, god I miss that car. I know it was at a car show and they had a booth set-up and the person handing out flyers was answering questions. So I asked him what I heard in the past and that most amsoil products are not synthetic even if they are printed on the label. Well let's just say he blew a gasket and told me that Im an idiot and should have never listened to such a person or read the information. He gave me a flyer and I handed it back to him saying if I am such an idiot, why I must be stupid for not buying your product.

I know it's a stupid reason but if you are trying to sell a product wouldn't you want to give postive reinforcement that your product is superior in X number of ways. The only thing people remeber about a product or company is how they were treated. Now with this guy, I was thinking about doing something naughty to him, I hate cocky people.

 

Hahaha...

 

You apparently disregarded my 1st & last comment of my original post.

Wrong.... Depending on the type of race, 24 hours of LeMans (~2900 miles +/-300 ) or 800 miles for 500 mile events.

That's how we work & it works for us. Until we start getting our a$$'s handed to us by other manufacturers, than we will do differently. I am only trying to give you some insight to what I have physically seen.

You might want to perform a leak-down test to see how the rings are sealing.....you shouldnt have had "water like oil" after 2500 miles.