All reasons why I would never run this. And no this isn't vendor bashing it's just a post.

 

Well not in this type of container...In an engine compartment...Put it in the trunk in a safty cell
and away we go...........No vender bashing ..... Just safty

 

Our cars (Evo's and most forced induction cars), run rich on purpose. They use the extra fuel to help cool the cylinders. Fuel is a very poor "heat-remover".
If you add a fine water vapor, you can lean out your mixture to a more effiencent mixture (close to 12.5:1), the water also slows the flame front so you can add more timing and boost without the added risk of detonation. By adding some methanol to the mix, you put back some of the fuel "drowned out" by the water. This way there isn't as large of space on the molecular level between fuel and oxygen molecules as with straight water.

 

cool than enjoy your spot at the rear of the pack. If you want the most HP out of a 4G63 this the the way to go.

 

Real mature guy. All I'm saying is that this is one more thing to fail. You're just adding another possible weak link in a system that is already pushing it. I'm just a minimalist, that's all And I was trying to cover my a$$ so I wouldn't be accused of bashing. Thanks though

 

Ever hear of distillation? Rising temperatures (high enough to cause the separation of H20 and R-OH) will drive out the pure R-OH thereby causing…..a combustible gas! Come on it is its simple chem. 101.

 

Would you run straight water injection with all the safety features that would prevent any possible run-dry situation?

 

Yes, washer fluid is flammable. I service over 80 cars a day and can tell you that I have seen washer fluid (AND coolant) ignite sponatenously when splashed on extremely hot manifolds or ****ty spark plugs. There are lots and lots of "loose" fluids under the hood of any car that WILL ignite if hit in the right spots on a motor. Coolant is extremely flammable and once lit is a b1tch to put out without an extinguisher... coolant storage is normally just a plastic bucket with an actual tube running down if it overflows... I wouldn't be too worried about your washer fluid igniting. If you are THAT worried about it you would also have your resevoir for coolant moved to the trunk as well. And trust me, it IS flammable. In fact, oil itself will ignite on spark plug wires if they are junk and that is the hardest to extinguish of anything. If you want to start talking about MSDS books you should look up ANY fluid under the hood... You will be surprised that almost all if not all are flammable. Just as a good note, pure alchohol would burn extremely fast (Especially if it is just the vapors) and would cause much less damage than coolant would. People worry too much... next time you are driving at 75mph in a 30 zone.. think of which is more dangerous.. the washer fluid under the hood or a little kid crossing the road. And to rebuttle everyone that says they are great and nice drivers and would never drive like that, think of it on a racetrack... the "safe" place to race... think of your flywheel exploding, or the driver next to you losing control, or tires blowing out, or that special wiring job with electrical tape under the console, etc... I don't think the washer fluid is your biggest concern

Just to let everyone understand its not that I am not agreeing with the safest is the best but for some things it becomes pointless... I mean how many people here always turn thier car off while pumping gas? How many people here Smoke or drink alot? And for the statistical anomoly guy.. there is also that same anomoly that stated how the piston was forged incorrectly and a chunk blew off blowing part of the head through the firewall and hitting his heart. Or the got hit by lightning deal. There are plenty of unsafe things we all do that no one *****es about so why care so much about this damned topic. Lets talk about the Ozone layer and our grandkids while we are at it :P

 

I ment if done correctly there is nothing to worry about look at http://www.aquamist.co.uk/ and see what it can do for you with all the saftey we need. After all We all bought evos to go faster than we are suposed to go right?

 

True but when you have had the luck I have had you become weary.

 

haha get outta here you lost your opinion privledges

 

Ethylene alcohol= Auto ignition temperature: 400 C, so if it were to be exposed to something that hot it is flammable to. Owww…the sky is falling!

RIght on my man

 

Good points. You remind me of the great Flambe deserts I used to love when I was in the DJ business where some dude flames pans of alcohol with some juicy fruit sauce in the dark and pours it back and forth between the two pans while I played the 1812 overture or 2002 space oddesy. I never saw one of those dudes blow himself up - and - I remember some strippers that would light up their breasts in flames. And also the millions of chefs and bartenders who cook and flame drinks.

I think we should start warning drunks every where not to light a cigarete when they are drinking a shot of 151.

In any event - all of this is pure idoicy as the kit can run windshield washer fluid which is held in similar bottles in just about every car on the road and rarely causes any problems

This thread reminds me of the tales of when cars were first running the roads they required someone to run in front with warning flags

 

Its good to be weary. I think the issue is risk vs. benefit.

Its ironic that people would question the saftey of a water / alcohol injection kit.

You dont HAVE to crank up your boost and lean out the mixture, and jack up your timing when you use one of these kits.

In fact - you can keep your stock settings, boost and just add this as a means to prevent dentonation and make your engine totally knock free.

Saying that water / alcohol injection is dangerous is like saying that guns are dangerous. Of course guns are not dangerous - people are.

The results and risk are all in the tuning and how you use it - like any other mod.

 

Didn't read this whole thread but wanted to throw out one comment. Just because there are temperatures under the hood that may exceed the flash point or autoignition point that doesn't necessarily mean there is great risk for ignition of vapor. Most combustible sources will only burn in a specific air/fuel ratio range. The lower explosion limit on ethanol is 3.3% and the upper explosion limit is 19%. I'm relatively sure that it would be extremely difficult for such a concentration to build up under the hood near the turbo with the amount of air flow moving through that area of the engine compartment.