It could be true. Of all the clutches on the market, the one I am least familier with is the HKS. HKS has always produced quality parts, but I am pretty sure they outsource their clutch manufacturing. However - who is making them for HKS if my hunch is correct - I don't know, nor do I know the inner workings.

Maybe try giving Brandon at HKS a call - he's a really smart guy, and can get the answers if he doesn't know off the top of his head.

 

Matt,
It's illegal for manufacturers to pressure their distributors on pricing. That's why it's manufacturer's SUGGESTED price.
Besides - lower price = more sales for Exedy

 

that is very wrong. most companies like Exedy have dealer agreements that have to be signed upon being a dealer, reseller. Incorporated in that agreement is a clause saying you cannot sell a product below there required level. whoring products out Ruins the industry and puts great products in the hands of internet companies that dont know what a clutch does let alone how to install it etc. it cheapens the name of the product and just flat out ****s on the industry in general. Long term it is better for exedy to implelent there dealer agreement pricing to maintain the integrity of the product.

We got your back Matt.

Eric

 

Actually - you're both right.

I don't want this to turn into a pricing thread - I was just poking a little fun at the first post.

However, since it is now at the forefront...

It is not illegal to "suggest" pricing (i.e. MSRP - Manufactures *Suggested* Retail Pricing) to a dealer/seller. However it is illegal to force them and say "you have to sell for this amount". Our policy does the former - prices are suggested.

Yes lower prices means increased sales, however the *value* of the product degrades as Eric mentioned.

It's a touchy subject, expecially when it involves the consumer, reseller and manufacture - but the truth is - we just want to maintain our products integrity. That's all.

We do our best to support the Evo community, and we hope that fact, mated with the fact we design a sell a superior product will pull us through.


Back to the question - the Exedy Metallic is a great street / strip clutch and Im sure Eric will vouch for that as well.

 

After days of contemplating and researching... I decided to stick with my first choice the EXEDY twin disk kit MM022SD... The order is placed and the installation will take place next Saturday. After the initial break-in period and some time to play with it, I will give my verdict. Some have complained about the noice and others advise its too much clutch for my stock car. I'll surely find out.

I also joined North Texas Evolution Owners Club. Evo's are scarce around here. Haven't attended any meets yet but hope to do soon.

 

For the record HKS clutches are made by daiken (i believe thats how you spell it), thats the same company that produces the cusco and exedy clutch. Atleast i believe so. I know for fact cusco and exedy are made by that company.

 

they are the same

 

Not true.

Cusco ARE made by Daikin (as well as RalliArt, STi, Nismo, TRD, etc, etc).

But we do not make the clutches for HKS. Possibly OS Geiken or Ogura - but I don't know.

 

Thanks for clearing that up--we had our facts wrong.

100% agree with you on that.

Regards,
Chris
GNV Motorsports

 

I have just completed the install of the Exedy Twin Disk. The clutch and flywheel weight was 35lbs shipped. I also ordered a throwout bearing online for $50 (not including shipping) while the local dealership's wanted $78 for it. They also would have done the labor for the install for $1000 with a free loaner car since it will take them 2 days. Well, If I had that kind of money I would have paid them to do it. It took me and my uncle 2 days (about 13 hours all together) to complete the install. Man, it was a pain. I never done a clutch until this weekend and he mainly does Toyota clutches. The moment he saw the motor he said it was an MR2 motor. I don't know the history behind that one.

Anyways, I am breaking-in the clutch so I would have any real comments on its performance. So far, the clutch doesn't feel heavy or and the noise was the transmission is bearly noticeable with the radio on. Compared to a slipping clutch its great. Once I break it in for 300 miles, then it'll be time to step on it.

 

(whistle blows)
Bull iSht
Vendors
5 sale penalty
Evo consumers retain car at the 20 yard line
2nd Down

 

Exedy twin disc is probably good well into the nines, shifts good, easy to launch and saves your syncros.

 

After breaking it in for 500 miles... The Exedy twin plate cermametallic kit pulls very well. It grips pretty well. If you are driving and shifting normally, the "diesel truck noise" is barely noticed with radio on. But when you are just warming up the car and just pressed on the clutch, you'll hear the noise. There were a couple of strange instances but they couldn't be repeated so I'll won't mention them.

Overall, grips very well and very streetable (even for my wife). Thumbs up. I haven't ran it hard yet so no performance opinion for you yet.

Note: The dealership didn't carry any Gear Oil to sell any individual bottles. They told me that the Transmission used 75-90 GL4 only, Transfer case used 75-90 GL5 only, and Rear Diff. had to have gear oil with LSD oil. They said they only have big drums of the stuff not little individual quarts. When changing the clutch I did noticed that mine were dirty. Dealership recommends changing it out every 30K miles. Can anyone recommend a good brand. I was thinking about the Mobile1 gear oil.



03 Weightless White EVO stock condition except for Exedy clutch.

 

BG syncroshift II in the tranny is a good choice
The LSD oil is SAE90 and called DIAQUEEN

 

Talk to Adam at Z-1 about the exedy twin. He hooked my up with a great deal plus threw in the t/o bearing and SS clutch line.

As far as noise and driveability, to me its a non issue. Sometimes when it cold or really humid it chatters a bit unile it warms up. Other than that its stock like, with a slightly firmer pedal. When it comes to noise, if anything it sounds like a very muffled BOV. I cant even hear it with the radio on. I have about 20k abusive miles with this clutch and it performs like the 1st day I installed it.