Best bolt on gt30 kit ATP vs Vishnu vs Buschur
Originally Posted by Supernaut
Oh I am sorry sweetheart? Did I upset you? Every Turbo Trixx Turbo kit/RNR 50 Trim Kit/AMS GT30R Kit has made at least 420WHP...
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Dude that is a ridiculous statement. I know for fact that not every AMS GT30R kit has made 420whp unless we're talking racegas.
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Race gas gets ya around 117MPH and about 12 flat if you can drive.Now add an immensely more efficient GT30R and they make 420+WHP on pump gas
. Hell there is a Thread on here from about 2 YEARS ago of a HKS 3037s kit making 435WHP pump gas . It is possible on 93 octane and around 22PSI, what is not to believe? It was even done with the RNR NON BB 50 Trim kit with a NON equal length header, made 420WHP on pump gas and a stock MAF, again it is not uncommon.This is nothing new, but were are talking Dynojet numbers, not DD ok?
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Originally Posted by Supernaut
Oh I am sorry sweetheart? Did I upset you? Every Turbo Trixx Turbo kit/RNR 50 Trim Kit/AMS GT30R Kit has made at least 420WHP, hmmmmm I GUESS you should wonder why the ATP does not?
I am not saying I am the smartest, just smarter then your flaming ***
Again I have seen these kits break 11’s with ease and in fact hit 122+MPH on pump gas, quite easily I might add, just because YOU haven’t seen this, doesn’t mean it’s not true, it just means your ignorant….Ok sweetheart?
I am not saying I am the smartest, just smarter then your flaming ***
Again I have seen these kits break 11’s with ease and in fact hit 122+MPH on pump gas, quite easily I might add, just because YOU haven’t seen this, doesn’t mean it’s not true, it just means your ignorant….Ok sweetheart?
Originally Posted by Supernaut
Of course they haven't, not all are in teh hands of a great tuner. On my DynoJet we can make 350WHP on a STOCK 9.8 03 Turbo. With that power we can run a 12.2 at about 115MPH, this is on pump gas Race gas gets ya around 117MPH and about 12 flat if you can drive.
Now add an immensely more efficient GT30R and they make 420+WHP. Hell there is a Thread on here from about 2 YEARS ago of a HKS 3037s kit making 435WHP pump gas.
This is nothing new, but were are talking Dynojet numbers, not DD ok?
Race gas gets ya around 117MPH and about 12 flat if you can drive.Now add an immensely more efficient GT30R and they make 420+WHP. Hell there is a Thread on here from about 2 YEARS ago of a HKS 3037s kit making 435WHP pump gas.
This is nothing new, but were are talking Dynojet numbers, not DD ok?
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if you have seen all this, and know all of this, why are you asking a bunch of people on an internet forum what is best?
I just want to know so many venders have so many different opinions on teh same turbo reguarding spool. I am also wondering WHICH turbo makes more WHP on pump gas, the 3071R or the 3076R, that I havn't quite figured out.
12.0 at 117 is a great time buddy, slow your roll there tiger
Originally Posted by Supernaut
I just want to know so many venders have so many different opinions on teh same turbo reguarding spool. I am also wondering WHICH turbo makes more WHP on pump gas, the 3071R or the 3076R, that I havn't quite figured out.
12.0 at 117 is a great time buddy, slow your roll there tiger
12.0 at 117 is a great time buddy, slow your roll there tiger
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
I don't know anything about ATP's kits, what they use for a manifold, what it comes with or anything else. To be honest ATP isn't someone I am even looking at when it comes to the EVO turbo kit market.
Our kit comes complete with the GT30/GT35r, the cast ceramic coated manifold shown, turbine housing has the integrated port for the Tial 44 mm external gate, SS 02 housing, oil feed and return lines. The turbos are water cooled.
The wastegate, wastegate tube, dump tube and 02 housing are all held together with v-band clamps and v bands for the seal. This isn't some cheap half assed put together kit, this is what I wish we had started building in the first place other than progressing to it at this point in time. That's what you call development though.
Our hotside has a fabricated 02 housing on it that uses a flat flange on the bottom just like our downpipe use on the top. The kit that is pictured above used someone else's downpipe, not sure who built it, I am guessing Meagan or Helix, whoever's it was it was a CNC'd flange like the factory for the donut gasket. We bolted it flat to our flange and there are no leaks at all.
As one other quick thing to add. The FMIC that is on the car is a Greddy, the intake temps are picking up close to 15 degrees on a 3,000-7,500 rpm pull, this is extremely high and isn't doing the HP any good. This is also at only 22 psi of boost, so the intercooler isn't being worked that hard although from the tempurature rise you wouldn't know it.
Stand by for a dyno chart of this car. It's done, just need to road test it.
The GT35R kit has already gone 10.3 at 141 on our car and we aren't even close to being where the car will run with the kit.
David Buschur
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Our kit comes complete with the GT30/GT35r, the cast ceramic coated manifold shown, turbine housing has the integrated port for the Tial 44 mm external gate, SS 02 housing, oil feed and return lines. The turbos are water cooled.
The wastegate, wastegate tube, dump tube and 02 housing are all held together with v-band clamps and v bands for the seal. This isn't some cheap half assed put together kit, this is what I wish we had started building in the first place other than progressing to it at this point in time. That's what you call development though.
Our hotside has a fabricated 02 housing on it that uses a flat flange on the bottom just like our downpipe use on the top. The kit that is pictured above used someone else's downpipe, not sure who built it, I am guessing Meagan or Helix, whoever's it was it was a CNC'd flange like the factory for the donut gasket. We bolted it flat to our flange and there are no leaks at all.
As one other quick thing to add. The FMIC that is on the car is a Greddy, the intake temps are picking up close to 15 degrees on a 3,000-7,500 rpm pull, this is extremely high and isn't doing the HP any good. This is also at only 22 psi of boost, so the intercooler isn't being worked that hard although from the tempurature rise you wouldn't know it.
Stand by for a dyno chart of this car. It's done, just need to road test it.
The GT35R kit has already gone 10.3 at 141 on our car and we aren't even close to being where the car will run with the kit.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
I still dont see any dyno charts for 3071 with no cams?
I need 3071 dyno chart with %100 stock engine. If someone out there broke my 352WHP on pump (91) and stock engine please step up and show me some dyno numbers. until then please find something better to do.
I need 3071 dyno chart with %100 stock engine. If someone out there broke my 352WHP on pump (91) and stock engine please step up and show me some dyno numbers. until then please find something better to do.
Dave-
Curious...did this car have aftermarket cams in it? If so, which ones?
Curious...did this car have aftermarket cams in it? If so, which ones?
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
I use to be pissed at guys that complained about our dyno numbers being too high. Now that I have a low reading dyno I am pissed at all the TOO high numbers! haha
At any rate. I am on the dyno right now with our GT3071 kit on an EVO. The car has a fairly small FMIC on it and a 3" exhaust with a 2' resonator and 2' long muffler. I am quite sure the power is being held back quite a bit from these two parts. Going to do some testing today on switching them out.
The car is being tuned on straight 93 octane (not our normal 94 premo fuel). I am running the car at 22 psi of boost. On our dyno it just made 324 whp. The torque line is what impresses me the most as it is FLAT to redline, very very odd to see a torque curve like this.
With this much power this turbo right now should be good for 11's at 117 mph on pump gas. I'd like to see what it will do on some 118 but that isn't what the customer wants.
The spool up is VERY nice. 20 psi by 4,000 rpm. VERY nice. Peak torque is hitting under 4,000 rpm and is staying relatively flat to 7500.
Pics and dyno charts to come. This dyno is at the least 10% lower than the AWD Dynojet up the street. We have dyno'd a couple now and it seems to be about 10% on average.
Do what you want with the numbers. My RS on race gas and more/better parts than this particular car made 340 and ran 120 mph trap speeds.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
At any rate. I am on the dyno right now with our GT3071 kit on an EVO. The car has a fairly small FMIC on it and a 3" exhaust with a 2' resonator and 2' long muffler. I am quite sure the power is being held back quite a bit from these two parts. Going to do some testing today on switching them out.
The car is being tuned on straight 93 octane (not our normal 94 premo fuel). I am running the car at 22 psi of boost. On our dyno it just made 324 whp. The torque line is what impresses me the most as it is FLAT to redline, very very odd to see a torque curve like this.
With this much power this turbo right now should be good for 11's at 117 mph on pump gas. I'd like to see what it will do on some 118 but that isn't what the customer wants.
The spool up is VERY nice. 20 psi by 4,000 rpm. VERY nice. Peak torque is hitting under 4,000 rpm and is staying relatively flat to 7500.
Pics and dyno charts to come. This dyno is at the least 10% lower than the AWD Dynojet up the street. We have dyno'd a couple now and it seems to be about 10% on average.
Do what you want with the numbers. My RS on race gas and more/better parts than this particular car made 340 and ran 120 mph trap speeds.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
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Originally Posted by Wrench
Are you Umiami80? Might I suggest just ignoring the comments that you don't like.
Originally Posted by Supernaut
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Naw I am a newbue, eitherway I am sorry and I'll ignor thise coments
Naw I am a newbue, eitherway I am sorry and I'll ignor thise coments
Ludakraut and Statix are good guys and very knowledgeable.
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Originally Posted by Wrench
Originally Posted by Wrench
Are you Umiami80? Might I suggest just ignoring the comments that you don't like.
Are you Umiami80? Might I suggest just ignoring the comments that you don't like.
Originally Posted by Supernaut
?????
Naw I am a newbue, eitherway I am sorry and I'll ignor thise coments
Naw I am a newbue, eitherway I am sorry and I'll ignor thise coments
Originally Posted by umiami80
Oh I am sorry Sir, I think you have mistaken me for someone who actually cares what you think. Please don’t repeat the mistake of thinking, just trust me on this one.
Originally Posted by Supernaut
I’m sorry sir, you have mistaken me for someone who cares, sorry for the confusion and let us all hope we learn from your mistakes.
Thank you
Thank you
D'oa!
Last edited by Wrench; Aug 30, 2005 at 10:36 PM.
Well over 50% of the posts in this thread have to be from 13 year olds pretending to have Evo's. If adults, capable of making an extra $1000 per month investment in a car payment, insurance, mods..etc..etc are posting like this then McDonalds and paper routes are paying way too much.
