TME to IX. Turbo Upgrade? or Lateral move?
Originally Posted by smokedmustang
I have thought about it, but am trying to decide if the price is worth the gains. The TME is a sweet turbo, and I dont know which ones I can Just "bolt up" to my manifold. I dont want to loose the quick spool up, nor change turbos for 10-15 AWHP gains. I dont think that would be a noticable "seat of the pants" difference.
You have the WR, but have you tried a TME with alk? if so, could you give the difference as you see it? You live close, maybe we should do a "seat of the Pants" test!
Thanks for the input.
You have the WR, but have you tried a TME with alk? if so, could you give the difference as you see it? You live close, maybe we should do a "seat of the Pants" test!
Originally Posted by evolvedmb
I have not tried a TME w/alky, and my sister-in-law lives in Indy
/Muncie area.
Muncie is NOT far at all from me.
Originally Posted by smokedmustang
You have the WR, but have you tried a TME with alk? if so, could you give the difference as you see it? You live close, maybe we should do a "seat of the Pants" test!
Thanks for the input.
Originally Posted by smokedmustang
nor change turbos for 10-15 AWHP gains.
Last edited by C6C6CH3vo; Dec 11, 2005 at 11:03 AM.
smokedmustang, I live not too far away from West Bloomfield, so yeah I know exactly where that is. BTW, I love Indy. Fun city.
As far as spool time, the regular TME turbo that you already have will spool the fastest. Dave said the new 20g-9 will spool a little later than the stock 10.5 turbo, but if he put TiAl hardware in it, who knows.
The 20g-9 will beat the redular 10.5 and the TME turbo "from a roll" becasue even at moderate rpm (where all three make good power instantaneously) the 20g-9 flat out makes more power over the entire curve. If you start the race at low rpm, say 2k or 1750 or so, the TME would shine a bit more than the 20g-9, but no one races from a roll like that so its kind of a moot point. However, that is something to consider for auto-x. For road racing, 20g-9 should be the better turbo, assuming it does make the advertised power and doesnt surge as dave suggests.
Basically, I think we need to just pull up a lawn chair and drink margaritas for a few months until people start testing these things out.
As far as spool time, the regular TME turbo that you already have will spool the fastest. Dave said the new 20g-9 will spool a little later than the stock 10.5 turbo, but if he put TiAl hardware in it, who knows.
The 20g-9 will beat the redular 10.5 and the TME turbo "from a roll" becasue even at moderate rpm (where all three make good power instantaneously) the 20g-9 flat out makes more power over the entire curve. If you start the race at low rpm, say 2k or 1750 or so, the TME would shine a bit more than the 20g-9, but no one races from a roll like that so its kind of a moot point. However, that is something to consider for auto-x. For road racing, 20g-9 should be the better turbo, assuming it does make the advertised power and doesnt surge as dave suggests.
Basically, I think we need to just pull up a lawn chair and drink margaritas for a few months until people start testing these things out.
Originally Posted by C6C6CH3vo
Looks like an invitation to a race to me
Remember, even < 5 HP gain can be a very significant improvement if it occurs throughout the rpms. Peak numbers can be decieving. It's the net area of improvement on the graph that counts.
Remember, even < 5 HP gain can be a very significant improvement if it occurs throughout the rpms. Peak numbers can be decieving. It's the net area of improvement on the graph that counts.
I agress with this guy
Originally Posted by Mercenary3
Basically, I think we need to just pull up a lawn chair and drink margaritas for a few months until people start testing these things out.
Lets do a summary:
TME great for spool
20G-8 good top end but boost/power surge
20G-9 good top end and no boost/power surge
so , why not to do a 20G-9 with Titanium wheels? better spool and better top end.
TME great for spool
20G-8 good top end but boost/power surge
20G-9 good top end and no boost/power surge
so , why not to do a 20G-9 with Titanium wheels? better spool and better top end.
Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
Lets do a summary:
TME great for spool
20G-8 good top end but boost/power surge
20G-9 good top end and no boost/power surge
so , why not to do a 20G-9 with Titanium wheels? better spool and better top end.
TME great for spool
20G-8 good top end but boost/power surge
20G-9 good top end and no boost/power surge
so , why not to do a 20G-9 with Titanium wheels? better spool and better top end.
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Originally Posted by smokedmustang
And the price is??????????? Thanks.
The other issue is if you put the TME internals together with the 20g, it's likely to cause compressor surge. When you take a turbo that is on the brink of comp surge on spoolup, and make it spool earlier, it's going to surge worse.



