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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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Dyno Results Follow-Up Comparison

I received some run files from another local DcEvoClub member who recently dyno'd at the same place (MachV) during a dyno day 2 weekends ago. I was pretty amazed by the comparison, and although it's difficult to compare results on different days, I have also included as much information as possible to make the comparison as legit as possible. You all already know my mods, but here is the comparison car:

05 Evo
TBE
MR DV
Walbro FP
Forge Uno MBC
Injen intake with UICP
Fighters Garage LICP
HKS 264/264 cams
SMC alky kit
NGK BPR8ES gap to .024
Dynoflash custom tune

Here are all 4 of his runs at 27psi on alky with cams along with my one 26psi alky run with SAE correction and showing the run conditions. Notice how consistent his readings are. I'm assuming his one low run was the first one before the coolant temps got all the way up. You can see how I have more power through most of the powerband, but then we're pretty much dead even playing leapfrog at the end. Notice we had the same ambient temps, but that my humidity was double. I'm actually not sure how the humidity was only 16% when it was raining cats and dogs outside. The weather report said 56% humidity, but of course the dyno is inside - not sure how that works. We still both had the same correction factor of .98, so maybe humidity doesn't affect the SAE?


Same graph with max power shown in SAE:



Same graph with max power shown uncorrected.


My 26psi daily-driving run vs his best run (also his daily driving tune):



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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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Porting = cam's ?!
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Its all in the ebay o2 housing!!!

ebay o2 = cams

that and you have the best VIII ever made, but you already knew that.

gotta give you some ****!
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Hmm, wow. I have more results that I'm about to post from this same dyno on the same day with the same conditions. This is getting interesting...
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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Here is a cammed 03 on the same dyno at MachV the same day as the cammed 05 above, so the conditions were the same. To reiterate, I dyno'd basically 9 days later, but as you can see in the first graph, weather conditions were the same except for my day was more humid (heavy rain).

03 Evo
drop in filter
walbro fp
264/264
mr dv
buschur tbe with HFC
base flash
mbc at 21 psi

Warr vs Cammed 03 - SAE corrected - Weather conditions shown


Warr vs Cammed 03 - SAE corrected - HP/TQ shown


Warr vs Cammed 03 - Uncorrected - HP/TQ shown
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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The 03 needs a custom tune!
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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Looking at the first comparo, I am going to guess that if either of the cars were to back off the boost to 25 psi, you would probably be able to run a little bit more timing and make slightly more power. The stock turbo is really hurting at anything much past 25 psi. It is way out of its efficiency range.

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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Sorry, this is a completely different thread showing comparisons with other cars on the same dyno. People need a reference point, else my original results are just numbers in the wind. Plus, my other thread is already very large and covers much different material. It makes no sense to start an entirely new and different topic in the middle of a 4-page thread. If you don't get any use out of the comparisons, then you don't have to comment. I apologize for the inconvenience.

The person I told not to start a new thread provided absolutely nothing else in his second thread. It was the same info with nothing new. He could have added his comments, which were the same, to the end of his original thread. Apples to Oranges here...
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludikraut
Looking at the first comparo, I am going to guess that if either of the cars were to back off the boost to 25 psi, you would probably be able to run a little bit more timing and make slightly more power. The stock turbo is really hurting at anything much past 25 psi. It is way out of its efficiency range.

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Yes, you could be right. In my setup, I'm only spiking to 26psi, so the majority of the time I'm at or below 25psi - no big deal, eh? Also, I made a LOT more power at 28psi, but I didn't want to run that daily. However, that still doesn't disprove what you said, since I didn't run lower boost and add timing to see the result.

Also, you have people like TTP Engineering running 30+ on his stocker and putting down roughly 400whp/450wtq while trapping 118mph. I'm assuming that huge tq comes from the 30+psi spike, but if he's still getting 400whp out of it, then it must not be so bad...
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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Hehe, I bet that little hairdryer is glowing red-hot at 30psi...

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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What is the point of this thread? that you make more power than other people with more mods? That porting is the $hi+? That you have the most powerful VIII ever?

I'm not trying to get on your case man, but all i see you post is about how fast you are, how much power your car makes, etc...but,back to my original question.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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^ Hes comparing cars mods vs another cars mods and showing what difference porting makes against the difference cams make.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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You people get soo pissed off about people posting their power figures and graphs.
Hes posting this **** so people can get an idea of what to do to their cars and what gains they can expect.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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so whats your overall opinion after the ported parts?
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by HiRevnVIII
What is the point of this thread? that you make more power than other people with more mods? That porting is the $hi+? That you have the most powerful VIII ever?

I'm not trying to get on your case man, but all i see you post is about how fast you are, how much power your car makes, etc...but,back to my original question.

Sounds like "warrtalon_"
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