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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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My First Dyno Runs !



'03 EVO

Buschur 3" TBE, APS Cold Air Intake, and AMS Lower IC Pipe.

Hallman MBC - 18 PSI falling to 15 by redline....anyone got any ideas why its dropping so much?!

Why do you guys think ? I was pretty impressed actually for the amount of boost.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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get some cams and tune it!
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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Get a reflashed ecu or piggyback like Exede and you will be closer to the 300whp range!!!
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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yea this whole time it seemed like my boost controller was holding boost pretty good.

but once they put it on the dyno...it wouldnt hold worth a crap.

im pretty sure i will be close to 300whp at 20+ psi that HOLDS to redline ?
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Pretty crappy actually. It's on smoothing 5 and still is very jagged. Also, it's on STD with a 1.04 correction, so the real numbers are even lower. You should show us the torque or better yet, zip and attach the run files, so I can show some comparisons. The Dynojet is not load-bearing, so maybe that's why your boost was reading lower.

You have some nice mods, but it makes no sense to have all that and no tune...

Your uncorrected numbers are:

247.8 whp
259.6 whp
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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If that is untuned I am sure it will be fine once tuned
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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i would like to know why it gets so jagged....
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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acturally, the number is not too far off for a untuned 03 with intake and exhaust, once you get tuned, turn up the boost to 21psi of boost, you should be around 300hp on Dynojet.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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well listen to this, forgot to add this at post, ive got an S-AFCII and LM-1...wtf is going on?! this crap sucks.

we did one run and it laid down 257. he told me i was running reallyy rich(i was trying to be safe when i tried to tune it myself) so he messed with it a little bit and got it to 270.

he said i was still running really rich and that i need a fuel pump bad. he also recommended a elec boost controller....

wow.

i just wanna get my stuff running the way it should be..
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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What were your AF ratios?
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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when i did a couple of runs before i got it dynoed from 3-5k it was around 11-11.1 and then from 5-7.4k it was like 10.9-11.0

im thinking that has a little to do with why my readings are a little low.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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You don't need a fuel pump or EBC, but leaving out your tuning device in your mod list is a bit remiss. You have to remember what I said above about how Dynojets are not load-bearing. Your tune won't be the same on the Dynojet as it will be on the road with full load. Your boost also won't be exactly the same. 10 and below is pretty rich, unless you're on 91oct. If you're on 93oct, you should be shooting for 21psi and 11.3-11.5 AFRs, but you also have to log timing to make sure everything is kosher. You can't just shoot for a certain AFR - timing is critical.

We need to see your torque curves, too, not only the WHP. I'm guessing your peak torque was 20-30 lower than peak HP.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
You don't need a fuel pump or EBC, but leaving out your tuning device in your mod list is a bit remiss. You have to remember what I said above about how Dynojets are not load-bearing. Your tune won't be the same on the Dynojet as it will be on the road with full load. Your boost also won't be exactly the same. 10 and below is pretty rich, unless you're on 91oct. If you're on 93oct, you should be shooting for 21psi and 11.3-11.5 AFRs, but you also have to log timing to make sure everything is kosher. You can't just shoot for a certain AFR - timing is critical.

We need to see your torque curves, too, not only the WHP. I'm guessing your peak torque was 20-30 lower than peak HP.
Yea, I'm on 93oct. But, even if I could log my timing...I still cant adjust it right? I guess .5 AFR can make more of a difference that I thought. Ive been looking into some sort of logger but I would actually like to be able to find an OB2 hookup that I could use with my labtop...since I use the real-time logging with LM-1.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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Yeah, if you find a way to read/log timing along with your other tuning devices, let me know. It's a pain having to have separate logging devices, but the OBD-II is unavoidable.

No, you can't DIRECTLY adjust timing, but you need to see what's happening with the timing so that you can adjust your AFRs accordingly. Changes on the SAFC causes the ECU to use different timing maps, so you can INDIRECTLY control timing. The more fuel you remove (leaner), the more timing you get.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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If you dont have a flash get a flash that way your timing map will be a little more optimal than what it is also you can get rid of the boost taper. The car will feel much better and you will probably hit what your looking for
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