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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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This is correct 10W-30 is thin for the track!!!!!!!!
20w-50 or 5w-50
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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My thought are that mits went the cheaper way out on many of the parts on this car, esp on the 03s. I think the rod bolt issue is just one of the many problems that presents itself with contunued use of the car. Just like the clear coat issue (wing, brakes), crappy paint issue headlight gear issue just to name a few. A lot of these can easily be fixed with with slightly higher quality parts. Some of which looks to have been included on the newer models. I know that some folks try and pass of damage like this to the dealership to get it covered, but its kind of the same as car insurance, just because people are commiting insurance fraud, doesnt meen that your claim shouldnt be paid especially since you are paying your hard earned money for it. We paid for our warantees in our buy price, whatever you paid for the car, and then when issues like this guys come about we get treated as if we are trying to pull something on them. Especially when its painfully obvious. I took my car in with the mods I had at the time as I never believed that a TBE and a MBC could cause a rod bearing failure, but I was wrong according to mits.

Now I have to hire an expensive lawyer to get to what I paid for?

How many guys have to have the same thing happen before its considered a common problem.

Sorry about the rant guys, but this crap that mits dishes out is really S***ty.

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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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so why are tuners raising the redline on flashes if the car cant handle them??
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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sorry about the damage, but can you post your mods before this happened?
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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Mods were intake/TBE/MBC/Dynoflash. intake was on for 2 weeks prior, flash & MBC were on for 10 days prior.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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Did the flash raise the rev limit?

Is the flash still on that ECU?
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Are you sure you dont think that for every blown engine?
Only those that look like they have come apart from overrevving.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 4G63>OOOO
Did the flash raise the rev limit?

Is the flash still on that ECU?
Yes the rev limit is raised. Yes the flash is still on the ECU. And yes, Mitsubishi knows about it. No I do not hit the rev limiter for fun. Its there for a safety pre-caution, not a toy.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Stew
My guess is whatever made enough contact with the balance shaft in the rear to knock it into the block and create a 6" hole caused enough of a momentary force to jump a tooth on the timing belt which would be plenty to knock pistons into valves.

If you notice how pistons 3 and 4 have the most valve damage, it would be fairly obvious that timing was jumped AFTER 1 and 2 broke loose from their connecting rods. Obviously #1 has rotational damage from valves definitely caused from the connecting rod slamming back up into it after it had broken off of the piston, shooting it to the top of the block.

The valves obviously did Not hit until the very end, otherwise the motor would be barely running at all directly after said major valve slap. Once a LOUD knock was noticable the motor did not turn over 3000 RPM, but was held between 2000 RPM and 3000 RPM for 3-4 minutes so I could get off of the George Washington Bridge.
I skipped over this post earlier, this could be possible. I'm not too familiar with the balance shafts on the Evo, I come from hondas. Could the rod letting go on #1 cause the balance shaft to come out the tranny messing up the timing belt in the process?
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Stew
Well I dont know how many times to tell you guys the motor has not been 'over'-revved, but hey, keep the opinions coming.
Is it possible it happened before you even bought the car?
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dohcvtec
I skipped over this post earlier, this could be possible. I'm not too familiar with the balance shafts on the Evo, I come from hondas. Could the rod letting go on #1 cause the balance shaft to come out the tranny messing up the timing belt in the process?
The balancer shaft is in the back of the block..

..Also to add on to my post earlier, once the intake valves became demolished (as in the pic below) the motor would not hold compression in 2 of the cylinders and most likely not run at all. Thus, the valves must have been demolished AFTER or DURING the final blow.

Cyl #4 head, rod/piston still attatched in cylinder


Cyl #3 head, rod/piston still attatched in cylinder


Cyl #2 head, rod snapped


Cyl #1 head, rod snapped, piston destroyed
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ez76
Is it possible it happened before you even bought the car?
Well thats always possible, I did get the car with 496 miles on it.. delivered from out of state.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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Those 496 miles could have been a evos worst nightmare if you know what i mean (Brake in period - constant overrevving, launching and whatever else)
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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Those 496 miles could have been a evos worst nightmare if you know what i mean (Brake in period - constant overrevving, launching and whatever else)
It's a possibility. I should really remove the other 6 conrod bolts and take measurements to see if they are stretched.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Are those BPR7ES's
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