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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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any one use Clutch Masters stage 3

i've used CM stage 3 on my boosted honda's and love them. my evo's stock clutch is starting to go out after 29k miles, so i'm in the market for a new clutch. i looking for a clutch that can hold decent power and last for awhile, that's why i'm going towards carbon/kevlar. my goal is hit 350 whp (currently 320whp). i don't drag race much, even when i do i don't launch. i will be competing in some scca autox events this year. please give me feedback if you have used or currently using the CM stage 3 on an evo.
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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any one?
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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40 views and no replies. not a single person on here have used CM stage3?
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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It's crap.

Go with an Exedy or an ACT.

They're the only tried and proven clutches for the Evo.

IMO - The choice between the two comes down to budget.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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I have the the fx400, but no mileage on it yet.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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It's crap.

Go with an Exedy or an ACT.
Couldn't of said it better myself.

I'm runing one right now and it sux.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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Which one are you using?
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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It was really nice in my 03' for 12k then died. My stock clutch lasted twice as long.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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I'm running the Clutch masters stage 3 (fx300).
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 04:20 AM
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I'm running the Clutch masters stage 3 (fx300).
what don't you like about your CM stage3. do you have the old design or new design. i did some research and it seem that their old design seem to explod prematurely and they redesign the center hub. i just like the fact that they use carbon/kevlar wich gives very smooth engagement and last very long. is there anyother manufactures that use carbon/kevlar pad materials.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 04:42 AM
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what about this Unorthodox Racing stage 2 with kevlar. it's rated at 45% holding over stock and unsprung hub which means faster shifts and more reliable but a little harder on the drive train. it's listed at $960 which is way over my buget but i think i can get it for cheaper from a vendor.

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by honda-guy
what about this Unorthodox Racing stage 2 with kevlar. it's rated at 45% holding over stock and unsprung hub which means faster shifts and more reliable but a little harder on the drive train. it's listed at $960 which is way over my buget but i think i can get it for cheaper from a vendor.

Why is there such a need to experiment, especially with - Unorthodox - WHO?!?!

How long have these guys been making clutches? They cut aluminum, they don't make clutches.

...and don't even get me started on Kevlar discs...


To address your previous post - why would ANY clutch 'explode'? Isn't that like, ya know, and big RED FLAG with a clutch company? Especially if the clutch was known for this happening?!


If you need a deal, give me a call... I'll get you a clutch that works.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 05:13 AM
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lol
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MattGold
Why is there such a need to experiment, especially with - Unorthodox - WHO?!?!

How long have these guys been making clutches? They cut aluminum, they don't make clutches.

...and don't even get me started on Kevlar discs...


To address your previous post - why would ANY clutch 'explode'? Isn't that like, ya know, and big RED FLAG with a clutch company? Especially if the clutch was known for this happening?!


If you need a deal, give me a call... I'll get you a clutch that works.
Unorthodux is not a no-name company, they are well known in the honda community and they have been making clutch for awhile.

what do you have against kevlar disk? please enlighten me.

i used the word "explode" to describe a catastrophic failure when $hit flying every where. any clutch can "explode", that's why pro race car requires a scatter shield.

i really want to hear from people who have actual experience with the CM stage3 and not from i've read this and that.

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by honda-guy
Unorthodux is not a no-name company, they are well known in the honda community and they have been making clutch for awhile.

what do you have against kevlar disk? please enlighten me.

i used the word "explode" to describe a catastrophic failure when $hit flying every where. any clutch can "explode", that's why pro race car requires a scatter shield.

i really want to hear from people who have actual experience with the CM stage3 and not from i've read this and that.
Im not saying Unorthodox is a no-name company. But clutchs AREN'T their business. ACT is a CLUTCH company... Clutch Masters is a CLUTCH company... Exedy is a HUGE CLUTCH Company... but Unorthodox is an aluminum company, that thought it would be profitable to get into the clutch market (I feel the same way about Fidanza). They don't have *years* in the clutch field, they have months, when compared to the other options out there.

Kevlar discs are very inconsistent with wear and drivability because it has a very inconsistent coeffecient of friction. Many people expierence 'shudder' early on in the clutches life because the Kevlar will tend to warp even under normal circumstances.

As far as 'exploding' you DON'T hear about that with ACT or Exedy... PERIOD. Yes race cars require scatter shields, but that's usually because the Flywheel has the problem (Go figure, Aluminum flywheels aren't rated as high as ChomeMoly... ACT and Exedy us ChromeMoly flywheels). Also it's a safety precaution, they don't have scatter shields because they EXPECT their clutch/flywheel/tranny to explode.

It doesn't matter to me man - but I can see you are comming here asking questions and I am trying to point you in a direction that is proven and has worked time and time again for many, many people.

But suit yourself, it's not my car.

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