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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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33-34psi on pump gas/no meth on a GT35r and putting down 600whp? Come on, we know better...
no reason to lie, ill have some charts to prove it if you really want.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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Reading compressor maps has never been my strong-point. I guess it's time to learn.
This spreadsheet I've put together may help. Just transpose the graph generated to your compressor map of choice.

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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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How much N2O then? I've never heard of any Evo 2.0 w/GT35r putting down 600whp on straight 93.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by blkAMSevo8
no reason to lie, ill have some charts to prove it if you really want.
If you can prove with those charts that it's only 93oct with no meth and no other power-adders, sure. How is it possible to run 33-34psi on 93oct with no knock suppression?
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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600 AWHP on pump graph please

I think its snowing in h3ll
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
If you can prove with those charts that it's only 93oct with no meth and no other power-adders, sure. How is it possible to run 33-34psi on 93oct with no knock suppression?
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Ok obviously he isnt running 34 psi on 93 octane. We all know this. So why are you trying to argue with him.

nrcooled. The stock turbo with your 2.3 liter will run out of steam short of your 7500 rpm redline. If you want to keep stock like spool, maybe buschur's 20g is your answer. Other then that Ted B has your answer.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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Ok obviously he isnt running 34 psi on 93 octane. We all know this. So why are you trying to argue with him.

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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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Ok obviously he isnt running 34 psi on 93 octane. We all know this. So why are you trying to argue with him.

nrcooled. The stock turbo with your 2.3 liter will run out of steam short of your 7500 rpm redline. If you want to keep stock like spool, maybe buschur's 20g is your answer. Other then that Ted B has your answer.
And what calculations did you do to determine that? Please share.......
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ibanez_926
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Ok obviously he isnt running 34 psi on 93 octane. We all know this. So why are you trying to argue with him.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Ok obviously he isnt running 34 psi on 93 octane. We all know this. So why are you trying to argue with him.
Because he has claimed it twice now and says he has graphs to prove it? Are you saying that it's so beyond belief that there's no reason to even question him? Just let him make the claim and everyone knows he's making it up? I'm cool with that, but I'm sure there's some newbie who will read it and think they can go get a GT35r and put down 600whp on pump gas, then will waste a bunch of money to find out he only can get 450...
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hondafan
running 20 psi on pump on a stock turbo will not top the horsepower number of a 35R at 20 psi on pump fuel. so more hp at the same boost level on pump. have you seen how much boost is required on an 8 to make 375 whp? now, how much boost on an 8 with a 35R? both on pump fuel. to make 375 on pump, stock turbo, you'll probrably need alky.
this is only true if you have upgraded other parts so you can flow more air. ported head, bigger i/c piping, upgraded manifold, etc.

then you are actually flowing more air at 20 than stock.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Are you saying that it's so beyond belief that there's no reason to even question him?
Yep
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by blkAMSevo8
no reason to lie, ill have some charts to prove it if you really want.
I love you people. You prove my theory that dogs ARE smarter than some people.... you are one of those people.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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All I got to say is, yes that power can be seen with that set-up running C16 OR meth, alky injection mixture b.s. however you want to say it w/ pump, but on pump alone.......... monkeys would fly out if my a$$ first !!!
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 13-0
And what calculations did you do to determine that? Please share.......
Use the spreadsheet I linked to above. On a 2.3 liter, you'll actually end up off the compressor map altogether with the stock turbo. However all of that has already been covered in one of nrcooled's other threads.

As usual this entire thread has been side-tracked.

I, for one, would like to hear more opinions on stock turbo vs. upgraded turbo. Especially considering how much power the IX seems to be making on its stock snail.

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