holy moly wtf ?
May 9, 2006, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Evo 8
Maybe he thought that the honeycomb was a restriction... 
yeah i read somewhere that it was a restriction,., i thought that it was a part that came with the intake.. so i chucked it. and everything worked fine afterwards so i didnt think anything of it.
i doubt mitsu sells just that honeycomb piece.
anyone know for sure?
thanks for the help
will
May 9, 2006, 05:12 PM
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This is not a DSM, you cannot remove the honeycomb. They are there to straighten the air to get a precise reading on the karman vortecies. Even back in DSMs it was never the best decision to do, but more of a "riggery" attempt at leaning the car out without a fuel controller.
May 9, 2006, 05:13 PM
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EDIT: Just checked, hey its been a while since I had to look into my MAF, I have one. But I think you are crazy for taking it out. Ya it worked OK in LT1/LS1s but thats just OK.
Last edited by Smike; May 9, 2006 at 05:27 PM. Reason: I am an idoit
May 9, 2006, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by joseph k
i do believe back in the day on the 1g DSM's you were actually able to "modify" the honeycomb to produce real whp; however, due to the technology that is present on our cars i would not advise it. get a new MAF
May 9, 2006, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
You never modified, only removed. Even on 1995-1999 4g63's you could remove 1-3 of 4 honeycombs, but it always had some side affects. It was all in the AFR's and was a rigged way of doing it.
yup, i knew it was something like that. just couldn't remember exactly
May 9, 2006, 07:30 PM
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By removing that honeycomb, you completely threw off the ability of the MAF to correctly meter air, its 99% of your problem, but you can't resolve anything until thats replaced...
The honeycomb also sets up the ratio of metered to unmetered air passed through the MAF and when you throw off this balance, you will get all sorts of errors as turbulence and other things screw up your readings.. The least of your problems being the fuel trims being off...
The honeycomb also sets up the ratio of metered to unmetered air passed through the MAF and when you throw off this balance, you will get all sorts of errors as turbulence and other things screw up your readings.. The least of your problems being the fuel trims being off...
May 9, 2006, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
Congrats, you'll probably need to buy another MAF. There was no good reason whatsoever to remove the diffuser (honeycomb) except to guarantee that the MAF won't work properly once you did.
what i find most hilarious is, maf is reading more air than it's getting, i'm hitting fuel cut, fueling is all over the place WAHTS DA PROBLAM GUYS???
May 9, 2006, 11:52 PM
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ya i saw that but thought it would make for a really awesome launch. lol! just kidding. im just not too convinced its only the bov, because someone i know, wink wink, once installed their bov backwards and it didnt do that. but i swear it wasnt me ok.
May 10, 2006, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMejia
wow.......just wow. I don't understand how you would think like this.......wow.
and lemme see this page that told you the honeycomb was a restriction on evo's...
May 10, 2006, 01:08 AM
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Removing the honeycombs on DSM sensors would provide lower readings, and should in this case too, unless there is something specific to the path the air takes that causes acutal metering problems, not just metered:unmetered ratio problems. At any rate, they should be left in, especially since the EVO MAS is good for upwards of 60 lbs/min.
The only time I have seen a hacked MAS implemented properly is the hacked 2G MAS with DSMlink. 14% more metering capacity (upgrade from 50 lbs max to 57) with no side effects. But I still don't like the idea of it. People did have a lot of success with the Blaha MAS mod on the 1Gs waaay back in the day, but that's practically before my time
The only time I have seen a hacked MAS implemented properly is the hacked 2G MAS with DSMlink. 14% more metering capacity (upgrade from 50 lbs max to 57) with no side effects. But I still don't like the idea of it. People did have a lot of success with the Blaha MAS mod on the 1Gs waaay back in the day, but that's practically before my time