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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 06:14 AM
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Make Your Own Race Gas!!!

i am by no means recomending this, but its an interesting article i found that i wanted some opinions on.

http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/misc/octanebooster.html

please let me know what u think. this could save people a lot of money in the long run if its legit.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 06:34 AM
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wow no one cares huh?
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 06:38 AM
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http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/misc...explained.html

more about Toulene and the 1.5l mega hp engines. good read!
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 06:49 AM
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Sounds interesting but i be affraid to mix it wrong and really mess something up. I think also many people just buy the race gas at the track cuz its convenient. Whoever runs on race gas all the time if any1 could try this out. I don't mind spending 20 bucks extra at the track and be safe hehe. Good fine though
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 06:51 AM
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You're better off getting alky injection.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 06:53 AM
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You're better off getting alky injection.
yes but that has to be tuned to run correctly, not to mention the $500 cost of purchasing one. so thats a $800 price tag, some would rather run race gas
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 06:59 AM
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Good Info!!! I have been using Toulene in my car for almost 2 years, (10% mix ~ 1 gallon) but i m just curious where can u get it for $2.50/gal? i bought mine from home depot and its around $10/gal.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 07:00 AM
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Good Info!!! I have been using Toulene in my car for almost 2 years, (10% mix ~ 1 gallon) but i m just curious where can u get it for $2.50/gal? i bought mine from home depot and its around $10/gal.
55 gallon drum will run u $163, so $3 a gallon.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 07:13 AM
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I just don't like mixing gas... what a hassle. Not to mention a lot of the additives are abrasive to the motor. Plus keeping a huge tank of gas in your garage isn't the safest way to go.

In the long run alky is the way to go. 55 gallon drum would almost pay half of an alky kit. If you buy this stuff in small quantities you will pay a pretty penny for it. This topic has been beat to death tho
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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I get my toulene at the Shirwin Williams store just 1 mile from my house and it really works.I heard that it was baned from F1 racing in the early 90's.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by justchil
I just don't like mixing gas... what a hassle. Not to mention a lot of the additives are abrasive to the motor.
simple octane booster

100oz of toulene
25oz mineral spirits (cleaning agent)
3oz tranny fluid (lubricating agent)

basic formula for a popular octane booster.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by justchil
I just don't like mixing gas... what a hassle. Not to mention a lot of the additives are abrasive to the motor. Plus keeping a huge tank of gas in your garage isn't the safest way to go.

In the long run alky is the way to go. 55 gallon drum would almost pay half of an alky kit. If you buy this stuff in small quantities you will pay a pretty penny for it. This topic has been beat to death tho
You definately have yr point there! keeping 55 gallons of toulene in the garage is the last thing u want to do.

Alky kit u will need a tune for it, but for someone that occasionally want to run high octane and raise the boost on some race day then this will be a good choice!
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 07:38 AM
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Boy you YOUNG Guys are really somethin, I am one of the CREATORS of that site!!


Being in the Turbo Buick field for almost 20 years, and working in the Petroleum industry, I've been using Xylene + 94Sunoco to get my 100 Octane for YEARS!! I pay $6.00 a gallon at Duron Paints!!
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 11SECEVO
Boy you YOUNG Guys are really somethin, I am one of the CREATORS of that site!!


Being in the Turbo Buick field for almost 20 years, and working in the Petroleum industry, I've been using Xylene + 94Sunoco to get my 100 Octane for YEARS!! I pay $6.00 a gallon at Duron Paints!!
wow really!!! thats sweet. ok so we want to hear more from u, well i do at least. post a specific formula to get 100 oct out of 93 sunoco gas.

just add 30%? is it that simple? does it have to be filtered or any other additives like mineral spirits or tranny fluid?
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 07:48 AM
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Well you 'could' go onto www.gnttype.org and read it, however:

1 gallon of Zylene mixes with THREE gallons of 94/93 Octane to get
~100 Octane, also add an once or so(small cap full) of Marvel Mystey oil to help lubricate the injectors........
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