Turbotrix 50trim Kit @ the Dyno
Originally Posted by t51quicksilver
I got a question... Nice numbers by the way and please don't take anything I'm about to say negative as I'm in the market right now for a 50 trim kit as well from Shearer. I was under the impression that this turbo would make a little more power at that boost level especially with the mods you have listed in your sig. From what I've read in the past and I may be remembering incorrectly but I thought I saw some of the IX guys making nearly 400 HP to the wheels with similar mods to yours on the stock IX turbo with the boost your running. I realize your car is not a IX but most of the freak HP numbers from the IX to the XIII we see are do to the Turbo differences and not MIVEC so my question is by going to this turbo kit I really would not see much in terms of HP/TQ gains? Am I correct in assuming this? It would be fullish for me to spend 4K dollars and have almost near the same HP as my stock turbo with actually more lag. If anyone can shed some light for me or refresh my memory if my facts are incorrect I would appreciate it. My real goal is to have a daily driver that makes a solid 400HP on straight 93 with moderate boost levels ie. 19 maybe 20 psi to be on the safe side. Are my expectations unrealistic?
Thanks,
Joe
Thanks,
Joe
Originally Posted by Smogrunner
I like how Gadiel signed your dyno sheet. 
23.4 is a lot of boost for pump gas. On big turbos, we usually have to limit ourselves to around 21 psi on our crappy 91 octane in Calilfornia. You power curve looks like a lot of fun....
23.4 is a lot of boost for pump gas. On big turbos, we usually have to limit ourselves to around 21 psi on our crappy 91 octane in Calilfornia. You power curve looks like a lot of fun....Maybe .. on CA gas .. 23 ..is alot, but not in PR.. nor NJ ...
Mark
turbotrix
Through a flash. ... that is awesome power for pump gas .. Keep in mind that this is SAE numbers .. add around 20whp for uncorrected numbers
Last edited by TurbotrixRacing; Sep 23, 2006 at 06:25 AM.
Good numbers Randy. I find most impressive however is your torque. It seems most 50trim dynos I have seen on pump gas only make around 340-360 with you clearing an awesome 378.
Everyone should keep in mind it was 91*F!! If it were 60* in there he would probably had 430whp+ no problem. Definitely get some track times on pump as for some reason it seems a lot of people have 50trims now but no track times. With that torque and over 400whp you should pull a GREAT trap.
Everyone should keep in mind it was 91*F!! If it were 60* in there he would probably had 430whp+ no problem. Definitely get some track times on pump as for some reason it seems a lot of people have 50trims now but no track times. With that torque and over 400whp you should pull a GREAT trap.
Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
Definitely get some track times on pump as for some reason it seems a lot of people have 50trims now but no track times. With that torque and over 400whp you should pull a GREAT trap.
Originally Posted by t51quicksilver
I got a question... Nice numbers by the way and please don't take anything I'm about to say negative as I'm in the market right now for a 50 trim kit as well from Shearer. I was under the impression that this turbo would make a little more power at that boost level especially with the mods you have listed in your sig. From what I've read in the past and I may be remembering incorrectly but I thought I saw some of the IX guys making nearly 400 HP to the wheels with similar mods to yours on the stock IX turbo with the boost your running. I realize your car is not a IX but most of the freak HP numbers from the IX to the XIII we see are do to the Turbo differences and not MIVEC so my question is by going to this turbo kit I really would not see much in terms of HP/TQ gains? Am I correct in assuming this? It would be fullish for me to spend 4K dollars and have almost near the same HP as my stock turbo with actually more lag. If anyone can shed some light for me or refresh my memory if my facts are incorrect I would appreciate it. My real goal is to have a daily driver that makes a solid 400HP on straight 93 with moderate boost levels ie. 19 maybe 20 psi to be on the safe side. Are my expectations unrealistic?
Thanks,
Joe
Thanks,
Joe
1. MIVEC does give a great difference in whp compared to an EVO 8
2. There is NO EVO 9 that is making 400 whp on pump gas straight and sane boost levels
3. The kit might be 4k but remember everyone is entitled to the choices thats why I decided to buy a turbo kit.
4. I have plenty of mods yes, but I used only 93 octane, on C16 or any type of alcohol injection and 30 psi of boost you would be surprised the power I can make.
5. The numbers are on SAE which is corrected taking into considerations the variables of humidity, temp etc. Uncorrected numbers you could add like 20whp so thats 435 on pump gas and add basically the same to the torque so its almost 400tq on 93 octane and 23 psi.
6. If you want 400 whp @ 19-20 psi of boost then I suggest you buy a GT35 but trust me the spool on that is going to be at 6k or more, that sucks IMHO for a daily driving car with spirited driving in some cases.
7. My car is a Road Racing vehicule, with sponsors and all, my AFR are on the RICH side, super safe AFR because I dont race only 12 seconds, I race heats of 15-20 minutes of abuse to the car. I need my engine to be as strong and safe as possible.
Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
Good numbers Randy. I find most impressive however is your torque. It seems most 50trim dynos I have seen on pump gas only make around 340-360 with you clearing an awesome 378.
Everyone should keep in mind it was 91*F!! If it were 60* in there he would probably had 430whp+ no problem. Definitely get some track times on pump as for some reason it seems a lot of people have 50trims now but no track times. With that torque and over 400whp you should pull a GREAT trap.
Everyone should keep in mind it was 91*F!! If it were 60* in there he would probably had 430whp+ no problem. Definitely get some track times on pump as for some reason it seems a lot of people have 50trims now but no track times. With that torque and over 400whp you should pull a GREAT trap.
I took the car to the track lastnight, This is totally different the car bogged on the first pass, and missed 2nd and 4th gears, second pass pulled a 12.2 @117 having problems again with second, third pass 12.3 @117 with the same problems with 2nd and 4th, I expect this car to run 11.5 at least @ 120 mph.
Couldnt practice more with the car because of the rain track closed with my car next in line for the 4th pass.
I will go in 2 weeks, as this next weekend I have Road Racing event and thats where I really need to practice with my car.
Originally Posted by TurbotrixRacing
Maybe .. on CA gas .. 23 ..is alot, but not in PR.. nor NJ ...
Mark
turbotrix
Through a flash. ... that is awesome power for pump gas .. Keep in mind that this is SAE numbers .. add around 20whp for uncorrected numbers
Mark
turbotrix
Through a flash. ... that is awesome power for pump gas .. Keep in mind that this is SAE numbers .. add around 20whp for uncorrected numbers
Great kit awesome, need to improve my drag driving skills again!
Originally Posted by Randy
Duh! You took the words out of my mouth.
Great kit awesome, need to improve my drag driving skills again!
Great kit awesome, need to improve my drag driving skills again!
Great numbers, w/ SAE correction the numbers already reflect the difference from an uncorrected number and take into account the heat/humidity already. So you would probably lose the 20hp not gain if it were to read uncorrected. Its the opposite scenario when it is cold out; uncorrected your numbers will be higher, but w/ SAE it will lower the number down. Great power.... gotta love the 50trim 
