do you guys know anything about the new 20g TME turbo that they're selling on lancershop.com and probably a bunch of other sites??

it seems that they take a stock 9 turbo and put in the titaninum alloy compressor.

is that all that makes it a 20g TME turbo?

does anyone know where this spools?

also what's the spool of the regular 16g TME 6.5 turbo? is it around 2800? does anyone have it? do you like it?

 

I have one of these turbos, and as a direct bolt on turbo I love it. I cant imagine it is everyones "cup of tea". It is a 20G9-6 with TME turbine wheel and shaft and has the 20G-6 compressor wheel.

This turbo is being sold by a number of vendors, some clipped, some not. I can predict a whole swarm of people on this forum telling you to stay away from it and advocating the 20G-5 as it is far superior - frankly there is no evidence of a direct comparison having been made between the two so I suggest making up your own mind.

I have been following some threads re the new 20G-5-LT, you may wish to wait for that to be released but BR has stated this new turbo spools later than the current 20G-5 but makes better top end power.

Back to the 20G9-6 TME, due to the aggressive clip spool is not that great - I get full boost (24psi) around 3500-3700rpm but its excellent from there on, in fact on my setup it continues to pull right throught to 7600rpm which the standard 16G was not able to do - power started fading after 5500rpm.

Summary 20G9-6 TME suits me and my needs, its not for everyone and has a very different spool and power band to the 16G.

I went from a Evo 4 turbo to this so was worth the money in terms of an upgrade. My opinion is that if you have a Evo 8 its probably better money spent getting a GT30 or "50 trim" than a 20G.

 

I think that Turbochargers.com produces most of these 20G-9-6 TME turbos, if I'm not mistaken. This turbo is configured with an Evo IX turbo's compressor housing, a 6-bladed 20G compressor wheel and a Titanium Aluminide alloy(TME) turbine wheel.

Then there is the BR20G-9-5 which is a Dave Buschur Racing/Forced Performance turbo. It is configured with the Evo IX turbo's compressor housing, a 5-Bladed "20G" compressor wheel and does not have a Titanium Aluminide turbine wheel.

If you must have the 5-Bladed wheel and the IX compressor housing as well as the Titanium Aluminide(TME) turbine wheel....then what you want is the Forced Perormance White Rabbit IX, or simply, WR-9.

 

I think that the 6.5 TME's spool around 2700-2900 RPM. Mine is a JDM RS turbo which is real similar but originally came with a 9.8 HS and a similar Titanium Aluminide turbine wheel. I don't really remember how it spooled with the 9.8 housing. But, now with a 10.5 turbine housing and 280 cams it'll hit 20# boost by 3100 in 5th gear, when floored from a 2500 RPM roll, on level ground at 2500' above sea level. Hope this helps.

 

Sparky, I have a JDM TME RS with 10.5 hotside. I also have HKS 280/280. Have you tried it above 26psi and if yes, at what rpm the power starts dropping???

 

I run the standard tme and its a blast but not worth the money new, buy it used and its a good buy...

 

Rmatt, this is not new, and I frankly don't understand why people go to lancership when looking for turbos. That is the absolute LAST place you should go for buying important Evo parts. All they do is resell stuff - they don't know Evos, don't own Evos, and don't work on Evos. They just make a new Internet sales shop each time a cool car platform comes out, and give it a name that makes people think they know that type of car.

The 6-blade is no good at all, and CONTRARY to what the Teletubby said, there IS plenty of proof of this right here on this forum. Speak to Ted B if you have to...

 

I can`t help you my friend as I`ve never run mine past 24 PSI, and that was unintentional. I did it on crappy gas. It did feel good at 24 PSI though. Usually I putt around with 21 PSI. I`ve never run race gas in my car.

You should be good to go up to 27.5 PSI before you reach the point of diminishing returns, given adequate octane, a bigger intercooler and the right cam gear settings.

Of course my experience is with a stock longblock and yours is built. If you have a good tune and EGT`s are kept within reasonable limits, maybe I'd take it to 28-30 PSI, on race gas, a good tune with an eye on the pyrometer.

 

Just to play devil's advocate here...

Dave Buschur initially switched from the 6-blade turbochargers.com wheel to the FP White Rabbit 5-blade wheel in his "20G" turbo and didn't say anything to customers because he had found that the two wheels put out the same HP/TQ on the dyno. Based on Buschur's post, I think his testing was a lot more exhaustive than Ted B's:

Who's testing do you think is more reliable? Ted B's or Dave Buschur's?

 

You're picking and choosing, Rich. There were additional findings later that echoed Ted B's to a tee...and they do not collaborate on anything. It was separate testing that yielded the same findings...

You also have no examples of any 6-blades performing like 5-blades at the track. There are many 5-bladers running 11.1-11.4, but no 6-blades...

 

There were additional findings out of Buschur's shop about differences in air temps, but I don't think there was ever a change in the dyno numbers between the wheels. That was tested exhaustively in the first test.

And as far as 6-blades at the track, show me a 5-blade that's trapped 122-124 at 23 psi, which is what the Buschur RS ran with the 6-blade. It also ET'ed around 11.2.

To a large extent, I'm just playing with you Warr, but I'm also pointing out how mixed the published results are on the 6-blade, which I think is noteworthy if you are going to discuss the 5-blade vs. the 6-blade.

 

Thats not true. just check out kevin lawsons 20G-8-6 time on dsmtimes page. Just ahead of four 20g-9-5 turbos. Actually the only 20g time listed that was faster than his was a 20GLT.

 

I agree with Warrtalon that in Lancershop they do not know stuff about EVO but it is an Internet Shop. However, If the price is right, why not buy a FMIC or Injectors or a turbo. Dont really understand that.


For me 20GLT does not worth the money. Too much. I prefer a little bit of lag but more horsepower in a better price. I will go for a GT3071R from ATP

 

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Nicolas: I don`t know what you`ve been reading but, the 20G-LT is actually the better deal pricewise, than the ATP 3071 kit configured with the higher flowing version of the ATP turbine housing. Performancewise, the 20G-LT looks better as a pumpgas turbo than the 3071. The 20G-LT`s compressor actually flows more air than the 3071 does. Spoolwise, the 20G-LT spools quicker than the 3071, as well. So, why exactly, do you prefer the ATP 3071 kit to the BR 20G-LT?

Edit: I guess I better get ready for some incoming. At least the flak jacket, pudding bowl leather helmet, and down into the bunker fo a couple hours, huh?

 

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