Do I have the least powerful IX w/ mods and tune???
Originally Posted by 3000ways
284whp was with mods, I never got a stock dyno done. My tune was done at tuning technologies, and despite my lower normals, I believe they know what they are doing for they have tuned many EVOs, and feel like when I get tuned again my numbers should fall in line with other IXs in my area. My only concern is that with my mods and no tune @20-21PSI I made 284whp, and with a tune I made 306whp, but my boost was raised to 23PSI, so how much power did I actually gain from the tune and not just the increase in boost?
Honestly it's cool, I have a lot of respect for my tuner and I don't want to make it out like he did a bad job, I'll post numbers when I get re-tuned, hopefully I'll hit atleast 320whp. Just to make it clear, Tuning Technologies is an awesome tuning shop, they've tuned many EVOs before mine and after mine, and made a lot of customers happy. As far as me, my car might not make as much power as other IXs, but she runs fine and still is fast.
Honestly it's cool, I have a lot of respect for my tuner and I don't want to make it out like he did a bad job, I'll post numbers when I get re-tuned, hopefully I'll hit atleast 320whp. Just to make it clear, Tuning Technologies is an awesome tuning shop, they've tuned many EVOs before mine and after mine, and made a lot of customers happy. As far as me, my car might not make as much power as other IXs, but she runs fine and still is fast.
If you are really not concerned about this, then you should have waited until after you got the pump installed and the car FULLY tuned. After the tune, you can come back and post all about it. This thread is like deja vu.
Originally Posted by Evo_Kid
91 octane is great, huh?? All the east coast kids dont understand how great they have it with their 93 & 94 at the pump.
You car looks a little down on power. I would expect around 310-325. I would say its one of the following things (all have been mentioned)
1) boost leak
2) conservative tune
3) just weak from the factory.
It would be nice if we had a completely stock baseline and the normal numbers for a stock IX on that exact dyno
4)91 oct sucks.
Go buy a drum of 100oct. unleaded and start mixing.
Find a local 100oct unlead pump and mix to 93/94. 76 gas stations sell 100oct at the pump, you just have to find which one.
Buy a meth injection kit and a good fail safe
You car looks a little down on power. I would expect around 310-325. I would say its one of the following things (all have been mentioned)
1) boost leak
2) conservative tune
3) just weak from the factory.
It would be nice if we had a completely stock baseline and the normal numbers for a stock IX on that exact dyno
4)91 oct sucks.
Go buy a drum of 100oct. unleaded and start mixing.
Find a local 100oct unlead pump and mix to 93/94. 76 gas stations sell 100oct at the pump, you just have to find which one.
Buy a meth injection kit and a good fail safe
The car feels great on 93 octane. I have had to adjust my tune to take advantage of gthe better octane.
My advice to all CA Evo owners is to mix gas inorder to get 93 octane. Unless it is an emergency, I will never use 91 octane again.
Originally Posted by nj1266
I stopped using 91 octane in June and started mixing 91+100 to get the desired 93.xx octane. There is a 76 station next to my work that sells 100 @ the pump. I fill there once a week and I have it down to a science on how much of each octane to mix.
The car feels great on 93 octane. I have had to adjust my tune to take advantage of gthe better octane.
My advice to all CA Evo owners is to mix gas in order to get 93 octane. Unless it is an emergency, I will never use 91 octane again.
The car feels great on 93 octane. I have had to adjust my tune to take advantage of gthe better octane.
My advice to all CA Evo owners is to mix gas in order to get 93 octane. Unless it is an emergency, I will never use 91 octane again.
Yeah, thats what I keep saying. All the people on the east coast dont understand how ****ty 91oct is. You literly lose 10-20HP just by using 91 instead 93/94oct.
I would pay 30-50 cents more a gallon if I could buy 93/93 at the pump.
My advice to all CA owners is to get an injection kit and inject at least water. Or meth/alky.
Mixing gas is also a great idea, but if you dont live near a gas station that sells 100 @ the pump, then maybe injection is a better idea.
Conclusion. 91oct Sucks so bad. All you east coast kids better pray and give thanks for your 93/94 oct.
Originally Posted by 3000ways
Not dissing anybody and especially my tuners, they are great guys and I know they did their best, but I'm just wondering if I have the honor of being the least powerful IX in the country w/ mods and tune.
My mods-
TBE w/ Test Pipe
Filter
MBC@23PSI-23.5PSI
Tune
306WHP/292WTQ
Dyno Jet/91 Octane
I'm not *****ing or complaining, I find it a little amusing, because I know I have really bad luck. If you compare a Mustang dyno, I know most Mustangs usually dyno lower than Dyno Jets, so take that into account. I'm just wondering if there is a IX out there making less power than mine w/ mods and tune?
Getting a fuel pump and re-tune, hopefully put down better numbers (fingers crossed). Also love my EVO, no matter how much power she makes.
My mods-
TBE w/ Test Pipe
Filter
MBC@23PSI-23.5PSI
Tune
306WHP/292WTQ
Dyno Jet/91 Octane
I'm not *****ing or complaining, I find it a little amusing, because I know I have really bad luck. If you compare a Mustang dyno, I know most Mustangs usually dyno lower than Dyno Jets, so take that into account. I'm just wondering if there is a IX out there making less power than mine w/ mods and tune?
Getting a fuel pump and re-tune, hopefully put down better numbers (fingers crossed). Also love my EVO, no matter how much power she makes.
HP, TQ, and boost -- I have seen some people with great #'s spikes, but bad curves and awful AFRs / knocks. Please send your data and we could provide more useful feedback.Dynos should only be used before and after a change (during the same day) because so many things can change. For example when I did a recent dyno run, the mechanic only put one small little fan on the car vs. previous times the shop had 3 fans on the car. Also, was your car a 3rd gear or 4th gear run -- many on this site do 4th gear, but then others do 3rd (which will inflate the #s).
Enjoy the ride....
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Originally Posted by nj1266
IIRC, you posted about this before. Correct? You mentioned that Alfred made only 3 pullson the dyno for your car and then stopped since he was concerned about your fuel pump. He wanted you to get a Walbro and then come back for a re-tune. He mentioned that your car WAS NOT tuned yet.
If you are really not concerned about this, then you should have waited until after you got the pump installed and the car FULLY tuned. After the tune, you can come back and post all about it. This thread is like deja vu.
If you are really not concerned about this, then you should have waited until after you got the pump installed and the car FULLY tuned. After the tune, you can come back and post all about it. This thread is like deja vu.
, so I was just telling him that I probably had the lowest powered IX with my mods, and there would be plenty of other IXs that would have walked him. I mean seriously I almost beat him, infact I should have beat him if I didn't do so poorly in the dig race
. It was three races, I lost the dig race , won the low speed roll, and lost the high speed roll by a car. So it was pretty close, but he got me best 2 out of 3 races and I had to pay him. It's a long story in which I posted on the LS1tech.com site. So anyways I just wanted to see if it was indeed true what I was saying, and I will post results from my pump and re-tune.
Last edited by 3000ways; Oct 14, 2006 at 10:42 AM.
Originally Posted by 3000ways
Your getting my thread confused, I'm stating I am satifisfied with my cars performance, because honestly I am. Sure I wouldn't mind a little more power, but who wouldn't? Even if I made 333whp, I wouldn't mind 343whp. My only point of this thread was to see if I had the lowest power output for a IX w/ my mods. I was talking about the IX w/ my boss who owns a Camaro SS, we recently had a little wager and race which I loss (I posted this on the LS1.net) of course I got to come up with some excuses for my loss right , so I was just telling him that I probably had the lowest powered IX with my mods, and there would be plenty of other IXs that would have walked him. I mean seriously I almost beat him, infact I should have beat him if I didn't do so poorly in the dig race . It was three races, I lost the dig race , won the low speed roll, and lost the high speed roll by a car. So it was pretty close, but he got me best 2 out of 3 races and I had to pay him. It's a long story in which I posted on the LS1.net site. So anyways I just wanted to see if it was indeed true what I was saying, and I will post results from my pump and re-tune.
, so I was just telling him that I probably had the lowest powered IX with my mods, and there would be plenty of other IXs that would have walked him. I mean seriously I almost beat him, infact I should have beat him if I didn't do so poorly in the dig race . It was three races, I lost the dig race , won the low speed roll, and lost the high speed roll by a car. So it was pretty close, but he got me best 2 out of 3 races and I had to pay him. It's a long story in which I posted on the LS1.net site. So anyways I just wanted to see if it was indeed true what I was saying, and I will post results from my pump and re-tune.
Originally Posted by 3000ways
Your getting my thread confused, I'm stating I am satifisfied with my cars performance, because honestly I am. Sure I wouldn't mind a little more power, but who wouldn't? Even if I made 333whp, I wouldn't mind 343whp. My only point of this thread was to see if I had the lowest power output for a IX w/ my mods. I was talking about the IX w/ my boss who owns a Camaro SS, we recently had a little wager and race which I loss (I posted this on the LS1tech.com) of course I got to come up with some excuses for my loss right , so I was just telling him that I probably had the lowest powered IX with my mods, and there would be plenty of other IXs that would have walked him. I mean seriously I almost beat him, infact I should have beat him if I didn't do so poorly in the dig race . It was three races, I lost the dig race , won the low speed roll, and lost the high speed roll by a car. So it was pretty close, but he got me best 2 out of 3 races and I had to pay him. It's a long story in which I posted on the LS1tech.com site. So anyways I just wanted to see if it was indeed true what I was saying, and I will post results from my pump and re-tune.
, so I was just telling him that I probably had the lowest powered IX with my mods, and there would be plenty of other IXs that would have walked him. I mean seriously I almost beat him, infact I should have beat him if I didn't do so poorly in the dig race . It was three races, I lost the dig race , won the low speed roll, and lost the high speed roll by a car. So it was pretty close, but he got me best 2 out of 3 races and I had to pay him. It's a long story in which I posted on the LS1tech.com site. So anyways I just wanted to see if it was indeed true what I was saying, and I will post results from my pump and re-tune.a stock IX or even a slightly modded one will have a hard time with a 2001+ LS1 6 speed, ESPECIALLY from a freeway roll. if its slightly modded it will be even harder.
just layin out the facts. dont be suprised AT ALL that u got beat by your boss, especially if its '01+
Well I made 284 with no tune and hks intake,3'catback, and bosst @20psi!!!
And then with my mail in flash and same mods I made 301hp....So don't fell to bad,,...But now I have a road tune from AL but I didn't go back to the dyno to see if there where any changes in HP....
And then with my mail in flash and same mods I made 301hp....So don't fell to bad,,...But now I have a road tune from AL but I didn't go back to the dyno to see if there where any changes in HP....
Here is what I've been seeing in Norcal with 91 octane on our local mustang dyno.
Stock 06 GSR late production (low boost)
WTQ 217.5
WHP 233.6
Speed Element Stage 0 EVO 9
Hallman MBC, HKS drop in, Speed Element Alpha Flash Custom tune
WTQ 299.1
WHP 272
+81 WTQ gains
+38.4 WHP gains
Speed Element EVO9 stage 1
Hallman MBC, HKS drop in, Perrin 3" acd downpipe, RRE Rallycat, Top fuel 3" Catback, Speed Element Alpha Flash Custom tune
WTQ 298.8
WHP 293.1
*with a tanabe 2.75" dp we are seeing over 300 wtq consistently with closer to 300 whp*
Here is the ECUedit datalog from the run above. It has zero knock and 100% octane level.
Stock 06 GSR late production (low boost)
WTQ 217.5
WHP 233.6
Speed Element Stage 0 EVO 9
Hallman MBC, HKS drop in, Speed Element Alpha Flash Custom tune
WTQ 299.1
WHP 272
+81 WTQ gains
+38.4 WHP gains
Speed Element EVO9 stage 1
Hallman MBC, HKS drop in, Perrin 3" acd downpipe, RRE Rallycat, Top fuel 3" Catback, Speed Element Alpha Flash Custom tune
WTQ 298.8
WHP 293.1
*with a tanabe 2.75" dp we are seeing over 300 wtq consistently with closer to 300 whp*
Here is the ECUedit datalog from the run above. It has zero knock and 100% octane level.