Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

520whp for a street car isnt too bad right?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:20 PM
  #16  
vwjeff's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,916
Likes: 1
From: Las Vegas and HATING it
Damn Pete

Nice #'s

Nice job on the tuning Dave
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:59 PM
  #17  
scheides's Avatar
EvoM Moderator
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,827
Likes: 13
From: Minneapolis
Very nice, do you have any graphs/numbers on pump or pump w/ alky?
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:04 PM
  #18  
EV06MR's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 150
Likes: 0
From: PSL Florida
One day eventually I'll try to get there. Wish they were here in Fla though.
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:49 PM
  #19  
Invoice EVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
Veteran: Air Force
iTrader: (32)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 708
Likes: 0
From: Elizabethtown, KY
No, that isn't bad at all for a daily driven street car. I've driven this car since I bought it back in Oct 2003 and four days ago I finally paid her off. It sees snow, rain, sun, fog you name it, but I hide from hail. I would probably cry if my car got caught in a sever hail storm.

Thanks for the tuning and help with some of the odds and ends of the car Dave. You go out of your way to help you customers and I really appreciate that. Didn't see Trent before I left, wanted to thank him for putting together that intake pipe before I left. Not only does it look awesome, but it made more HP which is a plus. Oh, can't forget Dan, thanks again Dan.

The car as always is a blast to drive. I haven't driven it yet on C16, I hope to make it to the track before I deploy and post a better time on street tires. I'm sure with a better driver the car would already be in the 10's.

Watching Dave work his magic is something else. I suggested to him that he should teach a class on tunning with the AEM EMS.

I'll post a pic of the 93/alky dyno sheet tomorrow. It made 433 awhp 339 tq.

I've got a couple of vids of it in action running on 93/alky. If anyone is interested just PM me and I'll send you the link.

If anyone has any questions I'll be happy to answerer them before I deploy. I'll tell you this, I have NO complaints against Buschur Racing and I'm glad that they built the car the way it stands today. Thanks Team Buschur.

Pete
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 10:08 PM
  #20  
Aby@MIL.SPEC's Avatar
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (161)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,043
Likes: 13
From: San Elijo Hills, Ca.
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Yes, has all the things Jarrod listed plus:

BR double pumper!!
Damn, he running a holley

great numbers
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 05:02 AM
  #21  
Bosshog's Avatar
Evolved Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 619
Likes: 0
From: Istanbul
It seems strange to me that most people seem to not go for the stroker option... Is there an important reason - like reliability?
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 06:01 AM
  #22  
David Buschur's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (53)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 14,622
Likes: 32
There is no failure issues with the stroker engines. We just are careful who we suggest buying a stroker to.

In this case of Pete's car we just put rods/pistons in the car without pulling the engine out, so it wasn't even an option.

This is what I say on stroker engines:

IF you street drive your car mostly and plan to run a large turbo (GT3065 or larger) and your main goal is to have a fast fun street driven EVO, then you might want to choose the stroker. The stroker engine makes more low end torque than a 2 liter. It brings the boost in faster with a large turbo, mostly this can be felt in the seat of the pants as the car accelerates faster driving normally and at low boost.

The downside to the stroker is it is very easy to make 500+ whp, if you have an EVO making 500+ whp you are approaching 140 mph trap speeds and the RPM required to do this is 8500+. My car on a 225/40/17 running 142 mph crosses the finish line at 9,000 rpm.

That is beyond what I suggest running with a stroker engine. We have not what I would consider an RPM related failure on a stroker but I am still suggesting only up to 8500 rpm for one.

Also, from everything I have seen the 2 liter will make more power at high rpm than the strokers do.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 06:19 AM
  #23  
Bosshog's Avatar
Evolved Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 619
Likes: 0
From: Istanbul
David, thanks for the long/detailed reply!
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 06:25 AM
  #24  
LayinLo's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 617
Likes: 0
From: Alabama
Yeah, good info to know, David.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 10:28 AM
  #25  
Invoice EVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
Veteran: Air Force
iTrader: (32)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 708
Likes: 0
From: Elizabethtown, KY
Originally Posted by Knightracer
Pete is really happy with the results. Now he needs some drag radials!
Only if you get some first then I can borrow them.

These are on the list for when I get back.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 10:34 AM
  #26  
SickSilverNLow's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,267
Likes: 0
From: OREGON
great numbers.....
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 11:03 AM
  #27  
High_PSI's Avatar
Evolved Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (50)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,152
Likes: 17
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
There is no failure issues with the stroker engines. We just are careful who we suggest buying a stroker to.

In this case of Pete's car we just put rods/pistons in the car without pulling the engine out, so it wasn't even an option.

This is what I say on stroker engines:

IF you street drive your car mostly and plan to run a large turbo (GT3065 or larger) and your main goal is to have a fast fun street driven EVO, then you might want to choose the stroker. The stroker engine makes more low end torque than a 2 liter. It brings the boost in faster with a large turbo, mostly this can be felt in the seat of the pants as the car accelerates faster driving normally and at low boost.

The downside to the stroker is it is very easy to make 500+ whp, if you have an EVO making 500+ whp you are approaching 140 mph trap speeds and the RPM required to do this is 8500+. My car on a 225/40/17 running 142 mph crosses the finish line at 9,000 rpm.

That is beyond what I suggest running with a stroker engine. We have not what I would consider an RPM related failure on a stroker but I am still suggesting only up to 8500 rpm for one.

Also, from everything I have seen the 2 liter will make more power at high rpm than the strokers do.



AMS has just designed a stroker (2.3 Liters) that can rev to 9000 so that will cure any problems with that. Does Buschur have one in the works?


Also why not change teh final drive ration, like make it 3.73 or somthing like that?
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 11:12 AM
  #28  
Bosshog's Avatar
Evolved Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 619
Likes: 0
From: Istanbul
what came out of that new engine? havent seen any posts about it recently...

Originally Posted by High_PSI
AMS has just designed a stroker (2.3 Liters) that can rev to 9000 so that will cure any problems with that. Does Buschur have one in the works?


Also why not change teh final drive ration, like make it 3.73 or somthing like that?
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 11:53 AM
  #29  
EDL's Avatar
EDL
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Great number you got there. Post some number with C-16
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 05:10 PM
  #30  
Invoice EVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
Veteran: Air Force
iTrader: (32)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 708
Likes: 0
From: Elizabethtown, KY

Last edited by Invoice EVO; Apr 27, 2007 at 08:19 PM.
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:44 PM.