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Old May 17, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by evodan2004
Don't u think adding arp rod bolts would add some insureance when reving to 8k on stock block???
yes and no.

The ARP rod bolts will ensure the big bore end stays put, but that does not help the g forces that are inflicted on the stock con-rods @ high revs. Nor does this help the wrist pin/piston from said acceleration.

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Old May 17, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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I hit 7800 with a 3071 everyday
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Old May 17, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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like scorke said a flash is only thing holding you back from 8k

the bottom end of the engine is going to be good stock to well over 8,000 rpm no problem. its your valves, and what cams you have. determining if your even going to make power or break your car. upgrade the valve train to rev higher than IMO 7,800. (some go up to 8,000)
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Old May 17, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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I used to run to 8200 stock valvetrain 272 cams no issues, with over 35k miles, now I am a 2.3 on 280s and I keep it below 8.

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Old May 17, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by iTune
RPMs kill engines.....

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The rod ratio of the stock 4G63 is not condusive to high revs. I'm sure some people have pushed the limits of the stock bottom end and valvetrain....but i don't recommend pushing it too far over stock.

On the stock turbo, i run 7800rpm on the stock bottom end and stock valvetrain. Once i install my HKS 280 cams, i will NOT raise my revlimiter at all over 7700-7800 rpm on the stock valvetrain due to aggresive ramp rates, which will only exacerbate valve float issues. Although, the stock bottom end should be able to handle the piston acceleration @ 7800rpm.

CJ

RPM kills bearings not motors.

A poperly assembled motor will handle RPM without a problem.

My 408 has a 6.126 rod and a 4" stroke thats a 1.53 ration it turns 8600 rpm through the traps on nitrous.

thats 4000ft/min @ 6000 rpm
5000ft/min @ 7000 rpm
5667ft/min @ 8500 rpm
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Old May 17, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ralph
I ride the rev's out near 8000 only during a 1/4 pass, IX's have a shorter 4th gear than VIII's .
+1 before i got the taller tires for the car, i road up to 8400 in 4th quite a few times.

completley stock motor.... no headbolts, rodbolts or anything....
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Old May 17, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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Valve Springs and ARP head studs are a must in this endevor...
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Old May 17, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DRFTKNGG
Valve Springs and ARP head studs are a must in this endevor...

head bolts help with the head pulling up during peak boost.... theres not much boost up at 8400 to need them unless theres an upgraded turbo....
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Old May 17, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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A better question is how many times will i be able to shift at 8500 rpm without destroying my synchro's.... First missed 1-2 or 2-3 shift at 8500 rpm and you can kiss that shift fork and syncro good bye.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DRFTKNGG
Valve Springs and ARP head studs are a must in this endevor...
WRONG.

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Old May 17, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by scorke
WRONG.

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ouch, that even hurt me lol
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Old May 17, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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Well I feel a must have or a good thing to have is a valve train that can handle the 8krpm and some rod bolts. I mean you spend a few hundrad now and save a few thousand later. That's my 2 cents.

If you are not gonna build the block and head at least do rod bolts and the right valve train.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Noogles
RPM kills bearings not motors.

A poperly assembled motor will handle RPM without a problem.

My 408 has a 6.126 rod and a 4" stroke thats a 1.53 ration it turns 8600 rpm through the traps on nitrous.

thats 4000ft/min @ 6000 rpm
5000ft/min @ 7000 rpm
5667ft/min @ 8500 rpm
I don't think you properly read my post Noogles......

PLease re-read.

RPMs do kill engines that were not built for high revs, like the stock 4G63. Again, re-read my post and stop trying to bust somebody's ***** without reading exactly what they said.

Thanks

CJ
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Old May 17, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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7800 is the recommended rev-limit for a stock 4g63's valvetrain. surely people rev higher and lower, time is the only thing keeping the engine alive depending on the tune and or who tuned the car.

cams+springs+retainers will allow you to rev higher. for instance fully built 2.0 race engines are usually around 9000-9500 rpm rev limit.

fully built 2.3's usually do not exceed 8200 rpm.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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