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Old May 30, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hondafan
most TC failures seem to be from incorrect or low fluid, or clutch-dumping diff shattering launches, not heat. so i'm not sure how beneficial this would be. it doesn't seem to be like the 4th gear issue in the 6-speed caused by heat on the road course, their TC's are holding up fine with the heat. until it would be confirmed that heat causes TC problems, when most i see are from the previous reasons stated, i think this is just an unneccessary expense.
hondafan, you are absolutely correct. just for the record, this isn't a product i have created and am trying to push to the public so i am totally unbiased.

yes almost all are from drive line shock. but there are more parts that make up the evo transfer case. you mentioned a differential failure. primarily from wheel hop. a limited slip unit can cure most of that problem. you left out two pieces that are quite important as well, RING and PINION they are the pair that encounter the most heat as they are constantly working on an interference bases. i think a cooler would help on that end.

thank you for the constructive criticism. it is well appreciated. keep it coming i want to be proved wrong and work this down to an un-usefull system

maybe ? ?
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Old May 30, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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I ripped my 4th gear teeth off in my 6spd from heat.

My TC is still going strong. Redline Shockproof heavy from day 1. 18+ track events so far.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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How hard is it to put an external reservoir for the TC? If we have an external reservoir for the TC, there will be less chance for the TC to be starve off oil.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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How hard is it to put an external reservoir for the TC? If we have an external reservoir for the TC, there will be less chance for the TC to be starve off oil.
very good the more i think about it myself, the more im coming to the conclusion that the cooler/ heat exchanger is not necessary.

the only problem is fluids always seek there own level! I'm trying to think of a way without using a pump or reservoir mounted so low its inconvenient???
i'll keep thinking, i like were this is going
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Old May 31, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by matyb
you left out two pieces that are quite important as well, RING and PINION they are the pair that encounter the most heat as they are constantly working on an interference bases.
that's where i said low/wrong fluid causes failures. sorry, i should have stated ring and pinion failures. i haven't heard of anyone ruining a diff from an aftermarket fluid, just the ring and pinion. and i haven't seen anyones ring and pinion fail from heat(unless there isn't the proper amount of fluid for cooling it).

and for the people wondering why the fluid isn't running out of the TC when you change it like it was when you filled it. i've been told that the TC has an overfill hole that excess fluid comes out of until at the proper level, but I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE. so please don't say "hondafan told me...", i'm not sure, it's just what i've heard. and it might be the reason we seem lower when changing fluid.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hondafan
that's where i said low/wrong fluid causes failures. sorry, i should have stated ring and pinion failures. i haven't heard of anyone ruining a diff from an aftermarket fluid, just the ring and pinion. and i haven't seen anyones ring and pinion fail from heat(unless there isn't the proper amount of fluid for cooling it).

and for the people wondering why the fluid isn't running out of the TC when you change it like it was when you filled it. i've been told that the TC has an overfill hole that excess fluid comes out of until at the proper level, but I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE. so please don't say "hondafan told me...", i'm not sure, it's just what i've heard. and it might be the reason we seem lower when changing fluid.
i understand what you are saying and pretty much agree with every thing you have said. it is quite obvious that these things dont just get hot cruising down the freeway and then boom. it takes abuse and shock. the question i am having in my head???

1) if the front diff. assy. was kept cooler over its life time would it be less fatiuged and less prone to breaking when beat on?

2) OR, is there noway around it and its just too much for the little tike to handle
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