I have about 900 miles on my evo and have noticed that when shifting into 2nd at redline that the gears grind and sometimes will not engage at all.

I took my car into service and explained the problem and took a tech out to show him. The tech then took some other techs to show them. I call the dealership latter that day to check up on my car and they tell me that the GM drove the car and then drove one on the lot and said that the grinding is normal.

I am pretty experienced dealing with **** like this so I ask for their opinion in writing which they faxed me. They said that the grinding was normal and due to the way that I shift.

I called Mits of America and ask them if my problem is normal. Ofcourse they said that the car should NOT grind, ect. So on tuesday I am meeting with Mitsu reginal service rep to show him the problem and get the dealership to fix it.

Anyone else have a similiar response from the dealer?

 

Dude,@ REDLINE,what do you think will happen,I would not be surprised if the is some sort of lock out to protect the tranny,gota be smarter than that,beside why the hell are you trying to ship at redline,there is a reason they call it redline!

 

What are you talking about? it is a commonly known problem.. The evo's syncros are too slow to catch up near readline.. if you shift anywhere near it quickly it grinds.. Just shift a little slower on the 1-2 shift and you will be fine.. I had to retrain myself after getting the evo.. From my understanding they all do this if shifted quickly near redline..


-Zach

 

Let me rephrase what i was talking about. I am not actually shifting at redline or at the revlimiter. Rather I am shifting near redline. like you would in performance driving.

I knew there was a common 2-3 shift problem but never knew about the 1-2 problem.

I have been driving stick for many years know exactly what I am doing.

It is unacceptable to pay 30k for a preformance car that does not allow you to shift near redline without problems. Not only does it grind everytime but sometimes I cant even get it into gear at all. My biggest gripe is that this will cause extreme wear on the gears and the potential premature tranny problems.

Now if mitsu would have told me when i purchased the car that this problem is known to exist or that they are aware of the problem and as a remedy they are redesigning or will provide tranny fluid flushes free of charge at given intervals like oil changes or tranny replacements then I might be willing to accept it.

 

Well, yours may be a little worse then.. mine only does it when shifting quickly.. And i have never had a problem with 2-3 shifts.. just 1-2 when done in the high revs and quickly.


-Zach

 

It is also uncommon for 30K cars to perform in ways the Evo can. I hope nothing is wrong with your car, but if you search on this forum, you'll see a lot of people talk about this issue. There's a lot going on in an Evo's AWD drivetrain that may make it different from the cars you have experience with.

Good Luck.

 

you don't need to bring the revs up that high anyway..your jsut going out of the power band.

 

do you even have any personal experiance with this????


mine will do it at 6K if shifted quickly. redline is at 7K. and the optimal shift point is ~6.5K so the revs drop to the right place. I could probably even do it at 5K if i tried.

 

The 1-2 grind is common. Do a search. Try pulling the lever slightly towards the left when shifting 1-2. It engages better than a straight back pull. I had the problem at first also with the 1-2 speedshift in the higher rpms...I felt a slight pull of the lever towards me might help by the way the gearbox felt..and it did work. For people to say that 1-2 shifts at redline should never be done obviously have never raced or owned performance cars before. Being able to speedshift at redline is VERY improtant when you want max performance.

 

Most modded Evos make power to redline. My tranny was a bit notchy when it was new but is smooth as butter right now and I shift at redline every day.

 

forget for a moment the optimal shift point. baiscally I am saying is that as a consumer I am not satisfied with a product that does not function properly and a product that has a know weakpoint or defect that I am not made aware of before my purchase.

I have owned many manny cars, some more expensive and some cheaper then then the evo. The point is that I have never had a problem shifting while engaging in performance driving.

The evo is a performance car, if i cant use it as such then something is wrong and Mitsu must make it work.

 

We understand what you are saying.. and good luck. let us know how you do.. The fact is it is unlikely they will fix it.. And if you drive other AWD cars, you will find most if not all have wierd little problems like this.

My WRX i couldnt shift into 1st until pretty much stoped.. that really sucked.. Most DSMs have the same problem as the evo i hear.. (not 100% though)

 

same prob here...mitsu gave me the same response also...

Changing diff and trans fluids next week to BG syncroshift and Redline Shockproof...

I shifted my 115hp civic like a mad-man and not a damn problem with 100k miles...

But look around...plenty of DOA M3's and z06's with all sorts of problems...

 

More then anything its Mitsu's moral obligation to step up to the plate about their tranny (or whatever) not working correctly. If they say that is the way it is designed then they need to provide free tranny service and tranny oil changes because with the gears grinding at high rpm will leave gear shavings and promote wear

 

Just out of curiosity, do you do rev matching and heel-toe to help the synchros last longer? Do you use engine braking all the time?