The upper intercooler pipe doesn't offer as much in the way of power gains as those found in upgrading the LICP (as the OEM UICP is already full 2.5" for it's length) but with the considerably shorter piping length for spool and transient response improvements (8" savings in our stock battery UICP and 14" savings in our short route UICP), all hard pipes to completely prevent expansion under high boost, SS T-bolt clamps and 4-ply reinforced silicone connections to prevent pipes from ever blowing off, and the weight savings (~21lbs) in going with the short route kit with our mini battery package, there are several good reasons to make the change. The biggest difference between our stock battery and short route UICPs with regard to performance will be the weight savings (mini battery kit), however, the short route UICP is 6" shorter than our stock battery UICP. I personally run our entire short route package and our mini battery kit with 3.5" intercooler for the shortest possible piping and least possible weight, but that's my preference. We offer both to cater to yours as well!

Tom

 

I bought the nisei because it has no welds. It makes the others look rather clunky by comparison.

 

the licp lives by the dp, which generates heat. this heat warms up the licp. yeah, when your mowing through the gears, the air out of the turbo is will get hotter, but any means of having air go through cooler tubing is better the same air going through a hotter pipe......a fmic can only do so much, why not give your air temps the best chance they can to cool down. if its not that big of a deal, then why does your car run much stronger in the cooler days than hotter ones....every bit helps.

 

I had the AMS LICP originally. It was the one without the bracket. The thing I didn't like about it was I bent one of the inlets by over tightening the t-bolt. I could tell a noticeable difference with the AMS pipe, but I kept blowing it off then bent it trying to cure that problem.

I now run a Nisei LICP and haven't had that problem. Plus I like the design and the bracket made into it. Haven't blown the Nisei pipe off yet.

 

if your arguing that the DP is heating the LICP then the steel (which has a lower heat transfer coefficient) would be better because it would be harder for heat to flow in than if it was Al.

the point is that the Licp (at least the part you replace) is over 7 inches from the DP, air is an excellent insulator so heating of the LICP is not an issue. (you can test this by seeing how close you can hold your hand next to a fire, its deff closer than 7 inches and the heat your hand can take is much less than the temperature that the compressor outlet is producing)

If your setup cant handle a steel LICP because it is heating up you have much bigger problems

 

i think nisei is the best. IC and ICP is their bread and butter. their design shows they put thought into it.

 

most aftermarket and reputable brands are all more than good its all on personal preference in the end...even though some will complain that at the end of so so a pipe is reduced and restricted and so so b is not ...that is crap because have u seen the outlet of the turbo ...so that little piece of reduction is not going to affect anything!

 

nisei ftw!

 

I installed the steel Nisei licp and realized ~10whp gain. I posted that and got tons of flack from all the people that own other brands telling me that *any* gains from a LICP were unlikely. My testing was not conclusive enough for me to argue the point but I believe the gains were real.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ght=Nisei+LICP

 

AGP.

 

buschur

 

Our lower pipe transitions to keep velocity up.

Also our pipe now has a smooth transition, we only have one weld connecting the two pieces together so you get the taper and the velocity as the factory intended and smooth pipe to boot.

not to mention our is aluminum (dissipates heat better) and come with a support brace/ bracket making it extremely difficult to ever loose a very hard to get at lower IC pipe. Without this brace I don't care what material the pipe is or what clamps there are.... it can find a way to work its way off. We know this because we had problems in the past with our pipe and many others... so we redesigned it and made it better

Eric

 

ETS FTW. great price and great design!

 

I have nisei intercooler pipe, and I love it.
great quality and it has a bracket to hold the pipe too.

 

I have a AMS LICP and I was told by my tuner I would have made more power with a ETS or Buscher style pipe but my tq numbers would have been lower on on race gase. Now I'm planning on upgrading to a FP red so I wonder if a ETS style lower pipe would yeild more power vs. AMS