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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 06:52 AM
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my question is, how would they hone it while the block was still in the car? is that possible?
sure why not? Just remove everything underneath including the oil squirters.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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I dont think you would want to hone with the block in the car. I am pretty sure you would want to remove the crank and clean the block after honing. Doesnt honing make small metal shavings?
yes it does. I used soapy water and a sponge to wash down the cylinders aftter I was done honing mine.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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yea i figure.. if you are going to remove all those bits and peices ad pretty much have a bare block in the car why not go the extra steo and just take it out.. that way its just way more easy to transport and way easier to remove parts from once it is on an engine stand...
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MR Turco
I dont think you would want to hone with the block in the car. I am pretty sure you would want to remove the crank and clean the block after honing. Doesnt honing make small metal shavings?
You are correct.
No matter how much you may wash the cylinders, it should be properly hottanked, measured and blueprinted. But to each their own...
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 06:59 AM
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At that point it would probably be almost faster and definitely safer and more convenient to drop the engine and do it outside the car. If this is something you could wait until spring for i would even lend my garage. I have an engine hoist and stands awaiting too
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 07:01 AM
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Thats the right way to do it. There are other ways to save to money. But sometimes you have to experience both ways of doing things in order to understand exactly what you are sacrificing. Good luck
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SiCKlEyWiKeD
sure why not? Just remove everything underneath including the oil squirters.
i just cant picture a mill that would be capable of standing over the car to do precision honeing.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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You can hone by hand with just a 3 prong honer. Thats if your cylinders are not messed up. That's how I did mine. I had my block on an engine stand when I did it. Honing is not as difficult as you think. Took me about 10mins. a cylinder.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SiCKlEyWiKeD
You can hone by hand with just a 3 prong honer. Thats if your cylinders are not messed up. That's how I did mine. I had my block on an engine stand when I did it. Honing is not as difficult as you think. Took me about 10mins. a cylinder.
ok so its a hand held thing.

see i have never done all this so sorry if these questions are stupid.

so a hand held huh. ok i will look into this
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 08:04 AM
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the tool costs about 30bucks and you can use a drill. Preferably one with a tq stop and adjustable speed settings.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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Another thing is if you decide to do the swap in while the engine is in the car then you don't need a full gasket set (as in the link you provided). Make sure your not paying for things you wont use. Taking out the motor would only add another two days to the job (in and out).
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by cssaddictm4
Another thing is if you decide to do the swap in while the engine is in the car then you don't need a full gasket set (as in the link you provided). Make sure your not paying for things you wont use. Taking out the motor would only add another two days to the job (in and out).

I was surprised how relatively easy it was to assemble the motor back together and drop it in the car. From there, it's just hooking everything up.

From having the motor on the stand to fully assembling it and putting it in the car it took less than two days. Started on a Friday night and was driving the car by late Sunday morning.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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Yeah I was surprised at the simplicity as well. 1day to pull the motor, 1day to strip it, 1 day for machine work to balance new crank (not relative to this build) and clean it, 1day to assemble, 1day to install, about 4days total
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DTM
The head will have to come off.....then you can keep the block in the car. If you are going thru all that trouble, it will make things much easier to drop the entire thing. Check main bearings, properly clearance the bores etc. Just my two cents.
I agree. If you're going through all the trouble, why not do it once correctly?

It CAN be done in the car, one way is to have custom pistons made that reuse the factory rings. Most people are concerned about breaking in the rings in a "used" bore.

If you want to clean up the bore with a hand held hone, then you can run into new problems. It would be very difficult to create a good finish in the bore AND to remove all the material left behind. You can't see it, but there will be small pieces of iron embedded and partially embedded in your cylinder walls. Furthermore, if you're making enough power to NEED aftermarket forged pistons, you should make sure everything is prepared/assembled properly.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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Stop being lazy and pull it out and get it done the right way
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