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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 11:31 PM
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According to Buschur they didn't make the Aluminum coz it absorbs heat! The stainless steel doesn't!

Also why would you put the same route(stock location) I think its useless upgrading it if your not gonna buy the short route version IMO
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extreme motorsports has a nice one too that works in the stock location and looks very nice too it is also aluminum. www.extrememotorsports.com
they specializr in dsm and evo's
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 11:47 PM
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I think Buschur is the best. it's stainless steel
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 11:58 PM
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Yup!
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I think Buschur is the best. it's stainless steel
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Spent198
Yeah, if you want to pay $695.00 for a few feet of piping. Waste of money, especially since "upgrading" the UICP has not proven significant gains in performance. Get a new LICP from Buschur, ETS, or AMS and your wallet will thank you.

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i was being sarcastic .. lol hence the

what if the buyer is rich enough to blow some cash on ARC uicp?? you don't represent the entire evo community you know


IMHO, Stainless is not an ideal material to be used for cooling. Aluminum is a better material because it disspates heat faster than stainless steel.

And stainless is cheaper material compare to aluminum and thats why most vendors use it to make the UICP. Lower the overall cost to manufacture means larger profit.

Look at your stock ic pipes, Mitsubsihi engineers designed them in Aluminums for its own reasons! You think they would just slap on some pipes without testing and release the cars to us?

I get a good laugh at those who bought aftermarket IC kits with aluminum FMIC with stainless steel pipings and getting giddyup about how good of a deal they got. They even got the nerves to compare their kits w/ Greddy ALL Aluminum FMIC kit w/ ALUMINUM ic pipes.. hahahhahaa wow just wow

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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 05:50 AM
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I have an Injun uicp and looks and works great for me.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:15 AM
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dude,,, it's just a tube... a round tube.... as long as it is round, and not crushed bent on each turn, there is going to be no difference in any of them.... ( assuming same diameter...)

find a cheap one that fits and be happy...

if you are concerned with heeat x-fers in your pipes,,, wrap them.... but seriously the amount of heat-x-fer thru the pipe will be several orders of magnitude less than you see in the intercooler.... that's why you have an intercooler...

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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:21 AM
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The differences are negligible. I recommend supporting a EVOM vendor pick your favorite.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:24 AM
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In the perfect world I would think an aluminum LICP and a SS UICP would be best.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:26 AM
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We do not recommend or use aluminum. The reason being is what others said why we dont.... Aluminum absorbs heat!

Polished stainless steel is what we use and thats because it deflects heat and also another big point with stainless is it will not crush under a load such as that given by a T-bolt clamp.



Originally Posted by 4G63DSM
dude,,, it's just a tube... a round tube.... as long as it is round, and not crushed bent on each turn, there is going to be no difference in any of them.... ( assuming same diameter...)

find a cheap one that fits and be happy...

if you are concerned with heeat x-fers in your pipes,,, wrap them.... but seriously the amount of heat-x-fer thru the pipe will be several orders of magnitude less than you see in the intercooler.... that's why you have an intercooler...
This post is not true. If everything / every product was the same there would only be one company building stuff.

I highly DISAGREE!
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:27 AM
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this topic has discussed many many times on this board. Do a search and you will see the results is negligible if your car is only going to be modified mildly.

However aluminum IS a better material for cooling efficiency whether its for upper ic pipe or lower ic pipe and this is the main reason why factory engineers use them for forced induction vehicles.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:33 AM
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stainless is it will not crush under a load such as that given by a T-bolt clamp.
To me, this is the main reason. And as said, if your going to get one, you should get the Short version with a Mini Bat. The Short is further away from the hot engine, which should help heat soaking. With you engine at normal temp. feel the UICP after the IC and feel the it at the top by the motor....big difference.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RuckerPark
this topic has discussed many many times on this board. Do a search and you will see the results is negligible if your car is only going to be modified mildly.

However aluminum IS a better material for cooling efficiency whether its for upper ic pipe or lower ic pipe and this is the main reason why factory engineers use them for forced induction vehicles.


if you are using your intercooler pipes for cooling you have a serious problem... also the point for steel isn't that it will let heat out, but prevent heat from the engine bay in... with alum... external heat sources in the engine bay will have a greater likely hood of heating the charge air...

And J-rod,, i agree a little bit,,, but seriously, intercooler pipes are just tubes... pick the straightest one that fits, , make sure it is stainless and you are set... there are better parts on the car to focus your attention and money on... like BR's HTA turbos,,, or cam choices... ect. ect. ect... COP's, or an EMS...

bang for the buck, picking a ti tube isn't goingt o give you and extra 5HP over a steel one...
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RuckerPark
this topic has discussed many many times on this board. Do a search and you will see the results is negligible if your car is only going to be modified mildly.

However aluminum IS a better material for cooling efficiency whether its for upper ic pipe or lower ic pipe and this is the main reason why factory engineers use them for forced induction vehicles.
NO .
you are wrong...
weight savings and cost would be the two most likely reasons... ( perhjaps manufacturability too) china is consuming lots of iron and steel these days and it is really driving up the cost of material.... hell even alum is getting pricey... ( note more and more auto manufacturers using magnesium in parts...)

alum is better for cooling, and that is why your intercooler is alum.... but with parts that are not heat exchangers, why would you want ALum? if the external temp is higher than the internal temp,,, for example an upper intercooler pipe in a hot cramped engine bay,, ( like an Evo..),, alum pipe would help heat-xfer into the pipe,,, warming the charge air...
that is bad, my friends,,, go with stainless...
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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We offer all of the options so you guys can choose what you like best Our UICP is available in short route (mini battery kit or trunk relocation of OEM battery) or stock battery configuration and steel, aluminum or stainless piping. We of course do silver and black powder coating as well as natural or polished metal finishes. We'll also do any BOV flange in existence, AIT bungs, MAF-T setups, etc. Basically anything you want, we can build for you

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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 4G63DSM
NO .
you are wrong...
weight savings and cost would be the two most likely reasons... ( perhjaps manufacturability too) china is consuming lots of iron and steel these days and it is really driving up the cost of material.... hell even alum is getting pricey... ( note more and more auto manufacturers using magnesium in parts...)

alum is better for cooling, and that is why your intercooler is alum.... but with parts that are not heat exchangers, why would you want ALum? if the external temp is higher than the internal temp,,, for example an upper intercooler pipe in a hot cramped engine bay,, ( like an Evo..),, alum pipe would help heat-xfer into the pipe,,, warming the charge air...
that is bad, my friends,,, go with stainless...
so are you saying the Ralliart, Greddy, HKS, and other major tuner companies are doing their kits wrong? They have been tuning and manufacturing Japanese cars parts more than anyone in the world and they all use aluminum pipings











These guys must dont' know what the **** they are doing .. rite?


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