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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Yes, but even if you switch the high to low boost the car's ECU will have to some way have a map change so that the car will work right if he WOT under pump. But yes that MBC is the shiznit and that will be something I will be adding to my car in the near future.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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I have the stage 2 snow meth with the safe inj and im just finishing up the setup and start tuning with the new FP i just put on
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LilRico
Yes, but even if you switch the high to low boost the car's ECU will have to some way have a map change so that the car will work right if he WOT under pump. But yes that MBC is the shiznit and that will be something I will be adding to my car in the near future.
well although not ideal, the low and high boost will be hitting different load columns in the ecu so map switching wouldn't be needed. this assumes that the low and high boost are sufficiently different (i.e. 21 psi and 28 psi)
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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well although not ideal, the low and high boost will be hitting different load columns in the ecu so map switching wouldn't be needed. this assumes that the low and high boost are sufficiently different (i.e. 21 psi and 28 psi)
I go 30+ if it would let me, and 26 on pump is a spike, so I don't want any dangers with the pump or meth so per JestR's recommendation I will now switch my maps. It takes less then 30 seconds to do and when I run ***** out with pump I'm at the full potential of pump and when I run meth i'm at the full potential of meth. I can run both on one map, but then again, that's not ideal for the car..
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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Well, I have a on and off switch in my glove compartment and I can switch the meth pump on or off. JestR tuned me for both. I cam use 93 or Meth. There's other ways of doing this. You can use the Cobb access port to have map switching. So you can have a bad *** tune for pure pump (in case you don't have meth) and then have another for meth, just switch it on the fly. For me, if I'm running on meth say at like 30psi and the meth runs out, the failsafe will detect it, sends a signal to the waste gate solenoid, and the waste gate opens and makes my boost go to 26 psi which is the PSI I run on pump. The car is then put to low boot. I control the boost by using a EBC and I select hi or low. High for meth and low for pump.
EBC! FTMFW!!!!!
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LilRico
I go 30+ if it would let me, and 26 on pump is a spike, so I don't want any dangers with the pump or meth so per JestR's recommendation I will now switch my maps. It takes less then 30 seconds to do and when I run ***** out with pump I'm at the full potential of pump and when I run meth i'm at the full potential of meth. I can run both on one map, but then again, that's not ideal for the car..
are you on the stock ecu?
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 05:50 AM
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are you on the stock ecu?
Yes, I am on the stock ECU...
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:21 AM
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you are up way to early lol^
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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I will be looking into this much more before I decide on what to get. If I go with the snow performance, I will get the safe injection
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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^ You guys are a little misinformed. What you are talking about is unsafe because in a stock turbo setup, even when you have a higher spike (boost) you still will fall to around the same load cells up top. The gain that meth gives you up top (where you'd be racing) is from leaning the mixture and adding timing.

Not only is what you are suggesting not ideal, its really unsafe and although the stock ecu might be smart enough to save you, depending on your high/low octane maps your block just might end up looking like mike1023's.

Don't ever turn down the meth off and boost down in a stock turbo and ecu car that is flashed for meth without reflashing for pump. If you do, Darwin will be after you shortly.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Boltz.
^ You guys are a little misinformed. What you are talking about is unsafe because in a stock turbo setup, even when you have a higher spike (boost) you still will fall to around the same load cells up top. The gain that meth gives you up top (where you'd be racing) is from leaning the mixture and adding timing.

Not only is what you are suggesting not ideal, its really unsafe and although the stock ecu might be smart enough to save you, depending on your high/low octane maps your block just might end up looking like mike1023's.

Don't ever turn down the meth off and boost down in a stock turbo and ecu car that is flashed for meth without reflashing for pump. If you do, Darwin will be after you shortly.

Yes it really is pointless to "turn it off." I was going though this struggle when deciding to buy my alky kit. Ah But what if I dont want to use it.. bla bla bla... then reality set in and why wouldnt you want to use it? If you dont want to use it dont step on it, when you want to use it or need the power its right there. Plus with the start point say... 12psi as long as you dont go above it you will not use any. The way I see it if you want meth, why would you want to turn it off.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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Yes it really is pointless to "turn it off." I was going though this struggle when deciding to buy my alky kit. Ah But what if I dont want to use it.. bla bla bla... then reality set in and why wouldnt you want to use it? If you dont want to use it dont step on it, when you want to use it or need the power its right there. Plus with the start point say... 12psi as long as you dont go above it you will not use any. The way I see it if you want meth, why would you want to turn it off.
Ok so if you don't get on it, you wont use the meth? From what i been told I always use it, that's why I bought my questions to the forum to find out what and how this really works. Is it tuned to spray meth at a certain PSI???
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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psi, and sometimes airflow signal
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TKEVO
Ok so if you don't get on it, you wont use the meth? From what i been told I always use it, that's why I bought my questions to the forum to find out what and how this really works. Is it tuned to spray meth at a certain PSI???
No. The meth comes on at a certain psi (usually 11-12psi) and gradually increases the spray until a certain boost pressure.

I have the safe injection kit but I've found that the solenoid doesn't work properly between shifts. It's sensing a no flow condition and then retards boost to 15psi for a split second before closing again and allowing the full 25psi. It's annoying so I've disabled it until I can play with it some more.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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No. The meth comes on at a certain psi (usually 11-12psi) and gradually increases the spray until a certain boost pressure.

I have the safe injection kit but I've found that the solenoid doesn't work properly between shifts. It's sensing a no flow condition and then retards boost to 15psi for a split second before closing again and allowing the full 25psi. It's annoying so I've disabled it until I can play with it some more.
So the safe injection is good or bad? Is what it is doing a very bad thing?
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