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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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The tune was not effected by the 3" tubing, I was reviewing the logs later tonight to see if I could see any changes, there are none. I guess that should have been obvious with less than 7 whp changes between all the runs.

9sec9, I don't see any reason a race FMIC couldn't be modified to be set up like the deluxe fmic, that's what I am doing to mine.

Stock upper i/c pipe is around 2.5", close to it.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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nice.. i bought 3" ic pipe but i guess ill stick with your trusty ol 2.5" pipe..lol
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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Test #2 is my second test. We changed the Race FMIC to the inlet on the face and a 3" outlet. We then used a 3" to 2.5" coupling on the outlet so the outlet size stayed the same, 2.5" upper i/c pipe.

this is the test that yeilded the best gain.. what is so special about putting the inlet on the face vs. like you guys sell it?? also what would be the benifit of running a 2.5 inlet w/ a 3" outlet matted to 2.5" ic piping?? sorry for all the questions..lol
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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The benefit of putting the inlet on the face of the IC versuse the side like normal front mounts is that Dave has positioned his turbo in such a way that it is a "straight shot" from the turbo outlet to the IC. No big candy cane "u" bend like a normal LICP.

I think Dave is keeping the 3" outlet just because it's there from the test he made and won't hurt anything to keep it 3".
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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The i/c plumbing going directly into the face of the intercooler makes the lower i/c pipe just the length of the 90 degree bend from the turbo to the intercooler, so maybe 4" long, that is the benefit.

I am not keeping the outlet of the intercooler 3". I am building a new intercooler tomorrow to include all the changes I want to make. It will have a 2.5" inlet on the face side and a 2.5" outlet.

crcain, please don't answer questions directed at me.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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thanks david!! guess ima have to fire up the ol tig welder..lol
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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well well well.....

looks like I'll be staying with my current 2.5" LICP and UICP's
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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david is the man!!!
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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sorry if i missed it...but....

was that on hmm...PUMP??
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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Great test, thanks for sharing!
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
The i/c plumbing going directly into the face of the intercooler makes the lower i/c pipe just the length of the 90 degree bend from the turbo to the intercooler, so maybe 4" long, that is the benefit.

I am not keeping the outlet of the intercooler 3". I am building a new intercooler tomorrow to include all the changes I want to make. It will have a 2.5" inlet on the face side and a 2.5" outlet.

crcain, please don't answer questions directed at me.
good stuff dave...

i was curious how quickly youd test the idea after you discussed it with us... ill let u know the results of our piping setup i described to you, with our rad setup.. maybe ill do a horizontal core to test against the vertical.

cb
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
The i/c plumbing going directly into the face of the intercooler makes the lower i/c pipe just the length of the 90 degree bend from the turbo to the intercooler, so maybe 4" long, that is the benefit.

I am not keeping the outlet of the intercooler 3". I am building a new intercooler tomorrow to include all the changes I want to make. It will have a 2.5" inlet on the face side and a 2.5" outlet.

crcain, please don't answer questions directed at me.
Is the inlet and outlet size currently 3"? If so will you be selling the I/C with 2.3 in and outlets?
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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Why on the Bad Bish car 3 inch piping works????
Is it beacuse of (just) DI manifold and 3' TB???


Originally Posted by U2SLO
Well you can look at my dyno's as proof as to what Driven Innovations manifold did for my car,the 3' piping and 3' outlet and 3'T/B was all Tom's recomendations and he had stated to me IF IT DOSEN'T WORK AND NOT BEAT STOCK SPOOL AND NOT MAKE HUGE GAINS I WILL PUT YOUR CAR BACK THE EXACT WAY IT WAS NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!
So as far as what would I reccomend for a great mod for anyone.....invest in this setup that Tom has built for me and go out and enjoy the gains!!! 9sec9 is going to be amazed when he see's the results himself.
If you could have seen where the numbers were going on race gas before dave pulled 3 degrees of timing I was utterly shocked!!!
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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crcain, please don't answer questions directed at me.
My mistake! Just got trigger happy. I think I need to cool off on the "reply" button.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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The badbish car, U2slo's car, we did not dyno one part at a time, we dyno'd an intake change, throttle body change, upper i/c pipe and fmic outlet modification all at the same time. This was a test I wanted to do before had those things done but after seeing his gains of about 40 whp I was even more curious. I'd say at this point the gains his car had were from the DI intake manifold and throttle body.

Our Race FMIC comes standard with 2.5" inlet/outlet. IF you want 3" we are happy to do it that way, no extra charge.

I put my car back together today. I HATED it being all ripped apart looking like crap. I cleaned up the wiring from the fan/water pump I had done, mounted the relays. Put the new Race FMIC on with the 2.5 inlet/outlet. Made a new upper i/c pipe and then put the fascia back on the car. It looks almost perfect again.

I am disapointed in the fuel rail situation with the Hypertune intake as the factory fuel line doesn't fit right (not at all actually). I feel that it would be really really well suited for a race car as a lot of the problems wouldn't be problems at all. It comes with a really nice fuel rail for AN lines but in my case I won't change my fuel line and used my factory rail.

I have another new idea I want to try and have invested quite a bit in getting it done. I can't talk about it. I am also told the HTA37 is coming maybe in a week for me to test.

I am also going to test some new 1200 cc injectors in the car and a new relay kit for the primary fuel pump. Then I have to get the car set back on "kill" and dyno again at higher boost. This 33 psi and 650 whp is getting boring.
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