Dual Valve springs set question. Urgent!
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Dual Valve springs set question. Urgent!
Hey my cars up a cft in orlando right now and there installing super tech dual valve springs and retainers and their telling me that my set didnt come with a dual valve spring base, that the spring sets usually come with a base. now i called the shop that i order the set from and im awaiting a call back about if the base was supposed to be included in my parts or not, but cft is telling me that its required to install dual valve springs.
what is this base their speaking about? and is it required to install dual valve springs?
the set i ordered didnt come with this "base"
but cft is telling me the kit THEY sell comes with a spring base. so im confused and waiting for the company i ordered em from to call me back n see if they were supposed to be included, but even the guys i ordered it from dont know what im talking about lol
and i dont know what im talking about lol,
what is this base their speaking about? and is it required to install dual valve springs?
the set i ordered didnt come with this "base"
but cft is telling me the kit THEY sell comes with a spring base. so im confused and waiting for the company i ordered em from to call me back n see if they were supposed to be included, but even the guys i ordered it from dont know what im talking about lol
and i dont know what im talking about lol,
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i live like 2 minutes from orlando idk bout them too much but i dont hear great things about their work call titan motorsports their across the street from cft and see what their opinion is and if there cheaper
they are called a spring seat & you also MUST USE the special supertech valve guide stem seals.
otherwise, you'll develop a smoky engine because the dual spriing set-up will eat into the oem seals, due to a lack of space / contact with the spring.
search supertech & you will see.
otherwise, you'll develop a smoky engine because the dual spriing set-up will eat into the oem seals, due to a lack of space / contact with the spring.
search supertech & you will see.
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they are called a spring seat & you also MUST USE the special supertech valve guide stem seals.
otherwise, you'll develop a smoky engine because the dual spriing set-up will eat into the oem seals, due to a lack of space / contact with the spring.
search supertech & you will see.
otherwise, you'll develop a smoky engine because the dual spriing set-up will eat into the oem seals, due to a lack of space / contact with the spring.
search supertech & you will see.
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Do i NEED supertech valve guide stem seals? or can i use any valve guide seals
Right now this is what i have, what else do i need-
Super tech dual valve spring
Super tech ti retainer
Super tech dual valve spring base (or seat i guess)
Buschur racing stainless steel valve set
WHAT ELSE DO I NEED? Valve Guides? Like i said ^, do i NEED super tech valve guides? or w/e there called
Right now this is what i have, what else do i need-
Super tech dual valve spring
Super tech ti retainer
Super tech dual valve spring base (or seat i guess)
Buschur racing stainless steel valve set
WHAT ELSE DO I NEED? Valve Guides? Like i said ^, do i NEED super tech valve guides? or w/e there called
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The valve guides are the inserted tubes in which the valve stems ride. They can be replaced, but that is a bit of work 
and is not generally required.
What a previous post mentions is the valve stem seals. The size of the seals must match the size of the springs, so that the springs don't damage the seals in use. If you don't have the right seals, the damage will cause the seals to leak, you'll burn oil, and then have to redo the work with the right seals, so save yourself the hassle and do it right the first time.
BTW, any capable shop that is doing a full spring replacement SHOULD be very familiar with what is needed. If they are not, then you should find one that is. There's a lot more to doing this job correctly than just buying the necessary parts....
and is not generally required.What a previous post mentions is the valve stem seals. The size of the seals must match the size of the springs, so that the springs don't damage the seals in use. If you don't have the right seals, the damage will cause the seals to leak, you'll burn oil, and then have to redo the work with the right seals, so save yourself the hassle and do it right the first time.
BTW, any capable shop that is doing a full spring replacement SHOULD be very familiar with what is needed. If they are not, then you should find one that is. There's a lot more to doing this job correctly than just buying the necessary parts....
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The valve guides are the inserted tubes in which the valve stems ride. They can be replaced, but that is a bit of work and is not generally required.
What a previous post mentions is the valve stem seals. The size of the seals must match the size of the springs, so that the springs don't damage the seals in use. If you don't have the right seals, the damage will cause the seals to leak, you'll burn oil, and then have to redo the work with the right seals, so save yourself the hassle and do it right the first time.
BTW, any capable shop that is doing a full spring replacement SHOULD be very familiar with what is needed. If they are not, then you should find one that is. There's a lot more to doing this job correctly than just buying the necessary parts....
and is not generally required.What a previous post mentions is the valve stem seals. The size of the seals must match the size of the springs, so that the springs don't damage the seals in use. If you don't have the right seals, the damage will cause the seals to leak, you'll burn oil, and then have to redo the work with the right seals, so save yourself the hassle and do it right the first time.
BTW, any capable shop that is doing a full spring replacement SHOULD be very familiar with what is needed. If they are not, then you should find one that is. There's a lot more to doing this job correctly than just buying the necessary parts....
call or email supertech and tell them you need 8 vs-H6.6I and 8 vs-H6.6E seals they are reduced diameter to clear the dual spring setup(stock is single)...if you run oem seals there is a good chance the inner spring will rub on the seal and cause issues...when i bought mine i think they were around 11 bux so rest assured its worth buying them now rather than trying oem seals
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the base is a spring locater that must be used when converting from a single to dual spring setup...you need valve seals
call or email supertech and tell them you need 8 vs-H6.6I and 8 vs-H6.6E seals they are reduced diameter to clear the dual spring setup(stock is single)...if you run oem seals there is a good chance the inner spring will rub on the seal and cause issues...when i bought mine i think they were around 11 bux so rest assured its worth buying them now rather than trying oem seals
call or email supertech and tell them you need 8 vs-H6.6I and 8 vs-H6.6E seals they are reduced diameter to clear the dual spring setup(stock is single)...if you run oem seals there is a good chance the inner spring will rub on the seal and cause issues...when i bought mine i think they were around 11 bux so rest assured its worth buying them now rather than trying oem seals
I just read somewhere that theres different seals for different pressure or w/e springs is that true? that theres diff type of seals for different dual springs? or all seals the same?
btw thanks for all the help!
well i just next dayed spring base's so ill call the company i ordered them from tomorrow and ad the seals. so i need 8 intake and 8 exhaust seals for dual springs.
yes the part numbers i gave you were for the intake and the exhaust
I just read somewhere that theres different seals for different pressure or w/e springs is that true? that theres diff type of seals for different dual springs? or all seals the same?i dont think spring pressure would play any kind of factor in the seal you use but im sure they have different seals for single and dual spring setups
btw thanks for all the help!
yes the part numbers i gave you were for the intake and the exhaust
I just read somewhere that theres different seals for different pressure or w/e springs is that true? that theres diff type of seals for different dual springs? or all seals the same?i dont think spring pressure would play any kind of factor in the seal you use but im sure they have different seals for single and dual spring setups
btw thanks for all the help!
You need to use the supertech spring seats when using there dual springs otherwise theres no where for the inner spring to sit. You also need to use there small diameter valve seals. 90 percent of vendors who sell there springs for some reason dont tell people this or they just dont know i guess.
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You need to use the supertech spring seats when using there dual springs otherwise theres no where for the inner spring to sit. You also need to use there small diameter valve seals. 90 percent of vendors who sell there springs for some reason dont tell people this or they just dont know i guess.
k im going to add the seals to my order and im all good to go