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Old May 14, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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Doesn't look perfect, but probably nothing to be worried about.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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Doesn't look perfect, but probably nothing to be worried about.
ok cool, yeah I hope I'll be ok. I guess I'll find out lol
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Old May 15, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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Old May 15, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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See the Snap-on man then get back to us.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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so ya'll don't think it looks too bad???

I am unsure of the piston to wall clearance, I let the machine shop handle that. he said something about turbo charged engines having to have the rings cut differently than n/a engines I remember. and also said something about the clearance for forged pistons being different than cast. I guess I assumed he knew but I could've been wrong. Is there a way I can check the piston to well clearance accurately? through a micrometer maybe??? If I can, I'll check and tell ya'll on here what it is
did you not get a build spec sheet from them?
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Old May 15, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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Strokers really tear into the walls that much? I just pulled my stocker apart after 77,000 miles and I can still see the cross hatching from mitsu........


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Old May 15, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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did you not get a build spec sheet from them?
don't think so. hell it's hard to remember lol. the pistons came with some paperwork that I gave to the machine shop
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Old May 15, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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maybe try contacting your machine shop, they should have a record of your build.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JC evo1
maybe try contacting your machine shop, they should have a record of your build.
I doubt it, these people were pretty redneck lol. I'll start by just measuring the bore size with the bore measuring tool and then if that seems off then I'll try and get info from the machine shop. Thanks for ya'lls opinions it really helps out. don't wanna put it all together again unless I know it'll last a while

thanks for ya'lls posts,

John
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Old May 15, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnboy1065
I doubt it, these people were pretty redneck lol. I'll start by just measuring the bore size with the bore measuring tool and then if that seems off then I'll try and get info from the machine shop. Thanks for ya'lls opinions it really helps out. don't wanna put it all together again unless I know it'll last a while

thanks for ya'lls posts,

John
Summit Racing will have bore guage for you.

But you don't know the size of the pistons.. or if you do, can pistons be a bit different in size? Would this be significant enough in the gap size? When you measure a piston to bore clearance I think generally you use an outside micrometer around the piston, and then put the bore guage between the micrometer and zero it out. Then when you put the bore guage in the bore, the dial reads the difference or gap.

Generally what are the signs of problems when looking at a cylinder wall?
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Old May 16, 2008 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by crcain
Summit Racing will have bore guage for you.

But you don't know the size of the pistons.. or if you do, can pistons be a bit different in size? Would this be significant enough in the gap size? When you measure a piston to bore clearance I think generally you use an outside micrometer around the piston, and then put the bore guage between the micrometer and zero it out. Then when you put the bore guage in the bore, the dial reads the difference or gap.

Generally what are the signs of problems when looking at a cylinder wall?
I measured the cylinder bore to be 85.20 with a electronic digital caliper. the Ross pistons that I have are the .020 overbore pistons. I know the digital caliper is not the most accurate tool for doing this so I'm going to try and find the appropriate tools tomorrow. I just had this lying around so I thought I could prolly use it to get a rough estimate. looks like I need to buy a few tools to be accurate at figuring this out. I'll do what it takes though, if I figure out there is not enough clearance between the piston and cylinder wall I'll pull my engine out and make it right.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AutoMotoSports
what was the piston to wall clearance?

Our engine builder says that the walls do not look that far off from a normal stroker.

Strokers put more side load on a pistons and can cause what you are going through.

I would make sure the tune is in check as detonation and too much fuel can cause this to happen much quicker and more severe.

Eric
I have always wondered, when it comes to bore washing, how much fuel is too much fuel? Say a 10.5:1 a/f ratio, is that likely to cause a problem?
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Old May 16, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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give it some dingleball action and see if it cleans up
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Old May 17, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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Running too rich possibly? The extra gas could be ending up on the cylinder walls, causing quicker erosion.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by wreckleford
I have always wondered, when it comes to bore washing, how much fuel is too much fuel? Say a 10.5:1 a/f ratio, is that likely to cause a problem?
Good question. I've wondered too.

The Evo X's came from the factory touching in the 9's! So I'd hazard a guess 10.5 on boost would not be a problem. Although I believe there was a recall or bulletin to correct the over rich X's... but I'm not too clued up on them really so could be wrong.
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