The drop off on the Red will be more significant than a 30r. Also, what if you want to just have an additional drag map for a 35/37/42r and do a simple turbo swap? Easy to do when you run the 30r kit all day long normally.

Red will be better for many people, but the 30r still has its place. A benefit of the Red is that the prices of used 30r kits has gone down. Look around on the private party for sale forums and you will find a few 30r kits for sale including a buschur cast mani 3065 kit and an HTA 3076 ETS kit

 

If you want the 30R, go with the 3076. That was my first turbo upgrade. It's a pretty nice turbo.

 

dont get a 30r look into the 50trim hyrbids that cbrd/blouch does

 

Ok thanks

 

There is no doubt in my mind that alot of people have proven the stock based turbo's can put down some serious times , no argument from me on that.

But only point overlooked is how hard those turbo's got pushed to get the times. The boost spike to achieve the TQ to get those cars down the track is huge. Pushin those turbo's well into mid 30+psi.

I managed to run 11.1 at a fair 125 mph at only 26 psi.

I would think that if you had ran a HTA3076R turbo well into the mid to upper 35+ psi range you would see that it would be a very capable setup with options to upgrade.

I truly am not trying to say that the 30r is a better choice than the red they are actually very close turbo's the red will hit harder IMO the 30r will most likely be a bit more linear and may hold boost a bit better thru out.

The OP was looking for data on the 30R so that is all that I had tried to supply him. as I know there is not alot of info or times on that turbo.

 

I'm kind of having this problem to, I really want the 35r, the HTA twin scroll supposedly spools a lot faster than the garrett but still, the red or the 30r can put down some good numbers and be alot easier on your DD and your wallet, decisions decisions...

 

the 30r is such junk thats why people use greens red or 35.... a green and 30r make almost same power levels... why buy a kit that cost so much more $ not even that much more gains... when a 35R kit cost almost the same as a 30r kit

 

like this one?

http://www.blouchturbo.com/turbos/Ga...tage_3_063_AR/

 

I agree that unless you can piece together a kit real cheap then it dont make sense. If you are going to a T3 flanged kit the 35 would be my smallest turbo of choice for me , but thats me. I been there done that.

I still think that a stroker and a HTA3076R would make some nice power with a very broad curve and holding TQ and Boost thru out its rev range.

And it would be just a turbo swap away from laying down all of the stock based turbo offerings at this moment

 

What does that turbo flow???

Probably around 48-50 lb.per min.

The HTA3076R on FP's website says it can flow to 57 lb.per min. considerable difference.

Nobody has pushed the HTA30 so nobody knows what it is capable of doing. With a built motor and pushin the snot out of the HTA30 I think people would realize that it is a fairly capable turbo.

Be the first to push it to the limits and put the guessing to rest

 

thats actually the one i was looking at. i've heard good things about the HTA35R and of course my friends that prey to the Green/Red.

 

not sur if thats the one...pm cbrd...i dont think thats the 50 trim with the upgraded comp wheel...jus pm cbrd

 

While you are at it, note the weight of those cars and what fuel/boost it takes them to trap that mph.

A standard 30r set-up will have you trapping 120-124 on pump gas in a 34xxlbs car.

Personally, I like the fpRed as a nice upgrade bang for the buck, but a 30r is great turbo despite what the masses say. It's capable of 430-450awhp on 93 pump and over 500awhp on better fuel. Decent turbo upgrade for a stock motor imho.

 

I pieced together a GT3076 (well it's not all finished yet, but getting there), I got great deals on the turbo and the manifold, but the rest of the stuff is really adding up to finish the kit. If you can find a complete kit that's probably the way to go. I'll end up spending about the same amount of money by piecing it together, but that's OK because I would have never had the "lump sum" of the kit available I always seem to spend around the $1000 mark

I think that strocker motors are really the place that GT3076's have a nice place. At least that's what I'm thinking as I'm working on that build right now. I think it's nice to be able to swap out any T3 flanged turbo. Want a 50 trim, GT35, whatever just swap it out.

Most of these people talking about reds have never even seen one, it's just the latest internet sweet turbo. It's very nice for sure, but take input from people who have hands-on knowledge.

 

i definitely don't have the money right at the moment to buy a full kit. also i have friends that have greens/reds/30R/35R/42R. so i've seen the potential of alot of these turbos.