upper intercooler pipe
We have a kick *** upper intercooler pipe. The kit in gloss black powder coat is $300. The kit in polished stainless steel is $330. It comes with the 1G BOV on it, clamps and couplings. This kit removes 16" of tubing and 6 bends from the stock upper i/c pipe. It does require the use of our lightweight battery kit. We did this so we could shorten the routing of the pipe. The battery kit weighs in at oly 17 pounds (20 pounds lighter than stock) and has 800 CC amps. This is $225.
Thanks,
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
Thanks,
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
So, in other words, to get the stainless steel ip piping, you really have to spend $555....isn't that a bit unfair? Why don't you just sell it as a set? I most certainly dig the idea of the removing all of that access tubing, but mentioning that you HAVE to buy the battery kit in order for it to work??? Hmm....my $.02
Why would they sell it as a set only? Then we with battery kits already couldn't buy it separately. They already tell you that you have to have a relocated battery or their kit. What more do you want? geesh...
bryan
bryan
I just thought it was a bit sneaky to be forced to spend $550 for a $300 kit...
Sure, they can sell them separately, I see nothing wrong with doing so, but I thought it was strange. If I wanted an Evo, I wouldn't like to hear that I first have to purchase the wheels and tires in order to make use of the Evo...bad analogy, yes, but I was just making an observation...
I've heard nothing but good things about David Buschur products, in no way was I 'bashing', or 'hating'...just an ovservation...
Sure, they can sell them separately, I see nothing wrong with doing so, but I thought it was strange. If I wanted an Evo, I wouldn't like to hear that I first have to purchase the wheels and tires in order to make use of the Evo...bad analogy, yes, but I was just making an observation...
I've heard nothing but good things about David Buschur products, in no way was I 'bashing', or 'hating'...just an ovservation...
Wou can put a lightweight battery in without the Buschur kit for $45. I bought the battery from a local shop and fabbed a tiedown myself. The Buschur one is nicer, but mine is cheaper. The total weight of mine was 12lbs.
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Originally posted by davidbuschur
We have a kick *** upper intercooler pipe... This kit removes 16" of tubing and 6 bends from the stock upper i/c pipe.
Thanks,
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
We have a kick *** upper intercooler pipe... This kit removes 16" of tubing and 6 bends from the stock upper i/c pipe.
Thanks,
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
Originally posted by Ron
You can remove bends and length, but if it doesn't reduce the pressure drop then there's no reason to change the plumbing... especially when the new plumbing is steel...
You can remove bends and length, but if it doesn't reduce the pressure drop then there's no reason to change the plumbing... especially when the new plumbing is steel...
The point being that pressure drop is not the only factor. Shorter piping gives better throttle response (and thus a perception of less turbo lag) . Fewer bends is cooler air (thus more power). With every bend, you decrease the velocity and create more friction and thus you heat up the air. There are other factors too that I just don't remember.
I like the stock UICP the way they are, the problem is that you need to replace the stock rubber hose(which can balloon up and cause preesure drop under boost) with Samco sport ones. Dave's solution is a very good and cost effective way, but I'm donno if the smaller battery will hold againast the harsh new england winters. Btw, the 1G Bov is very good, Mitsu Rally team usa uses 1G BOV and Samco Sport hoses on their Evo8 Rally Car.
I think the Buschur solution here is AWESOME. Better flowing IC pipes, a significantly superior BOV, and the ability to reduce battery size/front end weight. What's the problem? If you don't want his battery kit, you aren't forced to buy it. But his IC pipe is better than the others because it doesn't compromise its shape and performance to have crappy routing around the OEM battery. If you want an all out straight shot no compromise route to the IC, these are the hardpipes to buy!
Last edited by Noize; Sep 3, 2003 at 11:29 AM.







