How important is replacing the stock FMIC? I am planning to replace the LICP, but was thinking about leaving the stock FMIC because it is such an expensive upgrade and doesn't seem to yield a lot of performance for the money. I am running on the stock turbo and boost, but have plans to up the boost with a not too aggressive tune for daily driving.

 

at stockish mods/boost levels it's likely not going to make a major difference, it really becomes important with big boost and compliments a cam install well also.

 

I am looking forward to seeing the ets fmic testing results.

mike@awd makes a great point about "in top of 4th gear" ait's......which i beleive gets lost in most fmic compares....this is important to me....

I think its something that gets lost within DB's awesome FMIC thread/database.....is ait rise vs. time on boost.

yeah, if you have brand x fmic on a small turbo'd car on the dyno, boosting for ~5 seconds, it will have a higher temp rise vs a laggier / big boost turbo'd car being in boost for ~2 using the same fmic.

 

The data isn't lost in my comparisons, it is right there. Of course the shorter time you are in boost the less heat rise you are going to have, that is common sense. Common sense also should tell anyone that an intercooler that gains XX amount of heat in 5 seconds is going to gain even more heat in 2 minutes. It's not hard to see that if an intercooler can't control temps for a short pull that on a long pull on a road course or drag racing etc., the gains are going to be much higher.

I've got datalogs from quite a few cars running 25+ psi of boost on road courses for 20+ minutes showing how well the heat is controlled. It is however difficult to put all that information into simple form and post those results.

Keeping good records of what is going on when you are on the dyno is much easier.

It is all just information. Anyone can chose to use it, ignore it, call it lies and buy whatever they want. At the end of the day I have to be happy with what I use and sell and I am very happy with our parts. The 13 EVO's that went 9's THIS YEAR using our Race FMIC should be a pretty good indication of how well it works.

 

ETS no question bout it buddy of mine got a 3" fmic from ets looks awsome and he loves it good price also...

extremeturbosystems.com

check it out

 

DB, @ what rpm/sec is your dyno controlling to?

 

We also have a 15% discount going on right now!

Thanks!

Michael

 

We have started doing some testing, but on the X. The 8/9 will be up shortly. This doesn't have the AIT, but that will come in due time.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&highlight=ETS

Thanks,

Michael

 

Has the IC testing on the 8/9 vs. the competition been posted yet? thx.

 

Go for the one thats going to get you the results YOU want, not the one with the biggest fan club. As you can see many people just give you a company name but no reason why they picked that one.

I say do your homework befroe you pick, this way you get what you want and what your looking for. Keep in mind the kind of results your after, some FMIC require other fabrications to your car.

 

monkey, I couldn't agree with you more.

Now, everyone go check out the fastest times for 2008 for the results

If I'm not mistaken, there are two EVO's in the 8's with air to air intercoolers while the other companies opted for air to water, which of course non of you or I are going to run on a street car. Then there are the other 12 EVO's in the 9's with our Race FMIC. The results speak for themselves.

 

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ets hands down the black licp and black fmic is sexy

 

i love ets and ams nice s***

 

I'm sure it looks good but it seems like black would be a magnet for sunlight to heat up the FMIC and the coating would be like insulation...seems like a bad idea for performance. Correct me if I'm wrong here.