Best Wideband....?
Smartbomb has been incredibly civil in this debate and has shrugged off the PERSONAL attacks very well.
He has asked for actual proof of the claims made by TTP/Zeitronix.
He has offered to report in a national source any test that Zeitronix conducts provided it is fair and he can attend for nothing more then reporting.
He has said flat out he is very willing to accept his test may have been wrong, provided a response based on factual data from a technical perspective is used.
Contrast that with the other parties involved who have done nothing but personally attacked anybody that has a different opinion then theirs.
Some people have tact and integrity
AND some don't.
I'm the later and honestly, after seeing this exchange, I'll never buy from TTP or Zeitronix. I don't give a **** if they do make the best wideband out there.
He has asked for actual proof of the claims made by TTP/Zeitronix.
He has offered to report in a national source any test that Zeitronix conducts provided it is fair and he can attend for nothing more then reporting.
He has said flat out he is very willing to accept his test may have been wrong, provided a response based on factual data from a technical perspective is used.
Contrast that with the other parties involved who have done nothing but personally attacked anybody that has a different opinion then theirs.
Some people have tact and integrity
AND some don't.
I'm the later and honestly, after seeing this exchange, I'll never buy from TTP or Zeitronix. I don't give a **** if they do make the best wideband out there.
Smartbomb has been incredibly civil in this debate and has shrugged off the PERSONAL attacks very well.
He has asked for actual proof of the claims made by TTP/Zeitronix.
He has offered to report in a national source any test that Zeitronix conducts provided it is fair and he can attend for nothing more then reporting.
He has said flat out he is very willing to accept his test may have been wrong, provided a response based on factual data from a technical perspective is used.
Contrast that with the other parties involved who have done nothing but personally attacked anybody that has a different opinion then theirs.
Some people have tact and integrity
AND some don't.
I'm the later and honestly, after seeing this exchange, I'll never buy from TTP or Zeitronix. I don't give a **** if they do make the best wideband out there.
He has asked for actual proof of the claims made by TTP/Zeitronix.
He has offered to report in a national source any test that Zeitronix conducts provided it is fair and he can attend for nothing more then reporting.
He has said flat out he is very willing to accept his test may have been wrong, provided a response based on factual data from a technical perspective is used.
Contrast that with the other parties involved who have done nothing but personally attacked anybody that has a different opinion then theirs.
Some people have tact and integrity
AND some don't.
I'm the later and honestly, after seeing this exchange, I'll never buy from TTP or Zeitronix. I don't give a **** if they do make the best wideband out there.
Saying you will not buy a competing wideband from us is like us saying we will never buy a Honda Civic from the dealer when we already drive the car we want and are not even in the market to buy another car.
Needless to say, I will be getting a Zeitronics. I had my eyes on the LC-1 but after this thread...not anymore.
You are an Innovate user. You have made yourself clear already that you intend on keeping your unit currently in use.
Saying you will not buy a competing wideband from us is like us saying we will never buy a Honda Civic from the dealer when we already drive the car we want and are not even in the market to buy another car.
Saying you will not buy a competing wideband from us is like us saying we will never buy a Honda Civic from the dealer when we already drive the car we want and are not even in the market to buy another car.

How about this then.
When asked in the future by friends, locals, people on message forums, etc. about which wideband they should buy, I'll merely direct them to your childish banter here and let them decide on their own?
Because quite frankly, there has been ZERO technical merit as to why the product you push is superior and this thread has really shown your bad side on numerous accounts.
Sound good?
Ok, I guess you can assume I'll never in my life buy another wideband...and all you sell is widebands so...
How about this then.
When asked in the future by friends, locals, people on message forums, etc. about which wideband they should buy, I'll merely direct them to your childish banter here and let them decide on their own?
Because quite frankly, there has been ZERO technical merit as to why the product you push is superior and this thread has really shown your bad side on numerous accounts.
Sound good?
How about this then.
When asked in the future by friends, locals, people on message forums, etc. about which wideband they should buy, I'll merely direct them to your childish banter here and let them decide on their own?
Because quite frankly, there has been ZERO technical merit as to why the product you push is superior and this thread has really shown your bad side on numerous accounts.
Sound good?
All modern day A/F meters do a great job of reading A/F - trying to put together a test to show which one does a better job is splitting hairs... Now if you're into a bunch of features and additional functions, then it's easier to judge...
I personally haven't reached that point, but as I cautioned earlier, you guys are not helping yourselves in this thread. I highly recommend you take the high road, and turn this into an opportunity to sell us on the Zt-2, instead of pissing anymore people off.
I use an AEM gaugetype wideband. It's always worked great for me. I've used it with both the AEM EMS and with the stock ECU. Currently I have my stock O2 sensor unplugged and use the AEM to output a narrow band signal to the ECU and it works great.
I do have a question if anyone can help. Because I have the stock O2 removed, I get a CEL because the heater circuit is disconnect. Is there a way to get rid of this code (p0135)? Wire in a resistor to mimick the O2 heater? Turn off the code using Evoscan? Any suggestions would be helpful. I know I'm not the only person doing this.
I do have a question if anyone can help. Because I have the stock O2 removed, I get a CEL because the heater circuit is disconnect. Is there a way to get rid of this code (p0135)? Wire in a resistor to mimick the O2 heater? Turn off the code using Evoscan? Any suggestions would be helpful. I know I'm not the only person doing this.


