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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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i just did a 33R on a subaru in a mitsu housing (blouch turbo)

407whp/370wtq on our mustang dyno a stock sti does 215whp/220wtq hee he...

ill post some plots, i was on the dyno all day,

im sorry!

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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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Tell me about it.... lol

you picking up ur phone yesterday kept me from being on the dyno 2 days lol

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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRD
i just did a 33R on a subaru in a mitsu housing (blouch turbo) 407whp/370wtq on our mustang dyno a stock sti does 215whp/220wtq hee he... ill post some plots, i was on the dyno all day, im sorry!
Chad, was this done on pump alone? If so, what boost levels? Remember fellahs that I cannot view images from Iraq so any graphs posted I'd appreciate if they were sent to the emails I listed in the original post. Thanks.

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Been interested in this turbo since I first heard rumor of it.... would like to see dyno numbers, especially on a 2.3 pump vs. meth... I run a ported BBK full on my stock block, but someday on a built 2.3 I will opt for either this turbo vs. HTA35r or who knows what else will be around by then
Brett, I'm in the same boat as you are. I would like to see how this turbo stacks against the HTA35r as it is one of the turbos I plan to compare either the TAK33r or TAK330r against.
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by pure_evo
Chad, was this done on pump alone? If so, what boost levels? Remember fellahs that I cannot view images from Iraq so any graphs posted I'd appreciate if they were sent to the emails I listed in the original post. Thanks.



Brett, I'm in the same boat as you are. I would like to see how this turbo stacks against the HTA35r as it is one of the turbos I plan to compare either the TAK33r or TAK330r against.

this was done on straight 93 octane at 26.8 psi... and is the second highest pump gas STi ever on our dyno, second only to mine. My car had a full rotated mount GT35R with .82 hotside etc.

this is the 33R stuck in a stock location housing so it was drawing through a 3" cover and inlet pipe, not the 4" pipe like my car... (which made 20whp more, but less torque).....

the 33R is slightly smaller than a 3582R... it can use the same housings.... it will respond better than the 35R, but give up slightly at high boost levels....

we swapped a client's hta3076R to a 33R... and at 3 psi less boost pressure it spooled almost identical while making 25 more peak WHP and WTQ and carried that throughout the entire pull... with 3 more psi it kept climbing.

I have NEVER EVER been a fan of the 3076R.... so.... the 330R is a gt30R style compressor wheel with a different generation turbine (different than that of the 3076R) and outperforms it...

the 335R is a combination of the 33R turbine and uses a 3582 compressor wheel

lots of selections huh ? we are also working on some billet compressor wheel versions coming up here shortly.


there are some great selections out there from FP, PTE, etc... we just prefer to do our own thing!

cheers

cb
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRD
this was done on straight 93 octane at 26.8 psi... and is the second highest pump gas STi ever on our dyno, second only to mine. My car had a full rotated mount GT35R with .82 hotside etc.

this is the 33R stuck in a stock location housing so it was drawing through a 3" cover and inlet pipe, not the 4" pipe like my car... (which made 20whp more, but less torque).....

the 33R is slightly smaller than a 3582R... it can use the same housings.... it will respond better than the 35R, but give up slightly at high boost levels....

we swapped a client's hta3076R to a 33R... and at 3 psi less boost pressure it spooled almost identical while making 25 more peak WHP and WTQ and carried that throughout the entire pull... with 3 more psi it kept climbing.

I have NEVER EVER been a fan of the 3076R.... so.... the 330R is a gt30R style compressor wheel with a different generation turbine (different than that of the 3076R) and outperforms it...

the 335R is a combination of the 33R turbine and uses a 3582 compressor wheel

lots of selections huh ? we are also working on some billet compressor wheel versions coming up here shortly.


there are some great selections out there from FP, PTE, etc... we just prefer to do our own thing!

cheers

cb
graphs for this miracle turbo?
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRD
this was done on straight 93 octane at 26.8 psi... and is the second highest pump gas STi ever on our dyno, second only to mine. My car had a full rotated mount GT35R with .82 hotside etc. this is the 33R stuck in a stock location housing so it was drawing through a 3" cover and inlet pipe, not the 4" pipe like my car... (which made 20whp more, but less torque)..... the 33R is slightly smaller than a 3582R... it can use the same housings.... it will respond better than the 35R, but give up slightly at high boost levels.... we swapped a client's hta3076R to a 33R... and at 3 psi less boost pressure it spooled almost identical while making 25 more peak WHP and WTQ and carried that throughout the entire pull... with 3 more psi it kept climbing. I have NEVER EVER been a fan of the 3076R.... so.... the 330R is a gt30R style compressor wheel with a different generation turbine (different than that of the 3076R) and outperforms it... the 335R is a combination of the 33R turbine and uses a 3582 compressor wheel lots of selections huh ? we are also working on some billet compressor wheel versions coming up here shortly. there are some great selections out there from FP, PTE, etc... we just prefer to do our own thing!
Chad, as always I really appreciate your candid remarks/comments. The information thus far has exceeded my initial hopes of simply having a few charts sent to me for some rough comparisons. You mentioned that the 33r spooled similarly to the HTA76r on three less PSI of boost. That sounds well but in order to explore all of the details, one would have to know if the 33r is larger than the HTA76r as the lower boost levels should theoretically spool close to that of the smaller turbo set at a slightly higher boost level, right? Bottom line, I want to have 500whp and 500wtq on a Mustang dyno on pump gas. I have a dyno chart sitting in front of me proving that the HTA76r can do it on pump (31PSI). Yes, I'm thrilled to see the choice of options and early on it does seem like the 330r is what I'd need to make my goals.
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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Pretty sure my turbo, 3076R, started to go out yesterday at the track. Need dyno graphs so I can pick new turbo...
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 06:59 PM
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CBRD never ceases to impress.

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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CBRD
this was done on straight 93 octane at 26.8 psi... and is the second highest pump gas STi ever on our dyno, second only to mine. My car had a full rotated mount GT35R with .82 hotside etc.

this is the 33R stuck in a stock location housing so it was drawing through a 3" cover and inlet pipe, not the 4" pipe like my car... (which made 20whp more, but less torque).....

the 33R is slightly smaller than a 3582R... it can use the same housings.... it will respond better than the 35R, but give up slightly at high boost levels....

we swapped a client's hta3076R to a 33R... and at 3 psi less boost pressure it spooled almost identical while making 25 more peak WHP and WTQ and carried that throughout the entire pull... with 3 more psi it kept climbing.

I have NEVER EVER been a fan of the 3076R.... so.... the 330R is a gt30R style compressor wheel with a different generation turbine (different than that of the 3076R) and outperforms it...

the 335R is a combination of the 33R turbine and uses a 3582 compressor wheel

lots of selections huh ? we are also working on some billet compressor wheel versions coming up here shortly.


there are some great selections out there from FP, PTE, etc... we just prefer to do our own thing!

cheers

cb
That would be me that we swapped an hta30r to the 33r. I believe I was at 19-20psi with the 33r and it was 25whp+ vs the hta30r at 24psi. I can't wait to see what it does with the BR head and S2's.

I'm down the beach and won't have access to the graphs till wednesday... if everyone can hold off till then lol.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 05:07 AM
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CBRD never ceases to impress.

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It's my pleasure, my friend. Four deployments and still going.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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Chad

I took a look at two FP Red turbos that were tuned on your dyno to get a rough comparison of how they stacked against the TAK33r that you tuned (407whp/370wtq, 26PSI, pump) on the Subaru. The first FP Red made 412whp/351wtq on 30PSI (pump) and the second FP Red made 374whp/310wtq 26PSI (pump). I'm not sure how much the extra 0.5L helped in the torque department but -5whp/+19wtq on four less pounds of boost (26PSI vs. 30PSI) against a stock frame turbo is pretty good in my opinion. On another note, I'm impressed to see (read) the TAK33r (pump, 19PSI) made +25whp than the HTA76r (pump, 24PSI).
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRD

the 335R is a combination of the 33R turbine and uses a 3582 compressor wheel
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That's a pretty good combo right there.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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bump for graphs, and does the TAK33 require a tunbular mani? How does the spool compare to the newer red?
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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sounds like the gt3065 with a billet wheel. FP didn't want to make this for some reason.
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