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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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Question Fp red budget build what is needed???

So i am thinking about throwing a red on my evo but i am wondering what all i have to have and what all would be good to have to do this. Thanks
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 08:12 AM
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Give us your current list of mods and we can give you better advice.
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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i would say the fp oil line kit and the kit to the turbo can fit the evo 8. other than that its all up to u for the power u want
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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i have 272 cams, tbe, e85 tune, hard piping and a few other misc mods
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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would i need double fuel pump for e85 n fp red?
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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do i get the 1st gen or 2nd gen kit for the install on a evo8
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 10:48 PM
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2nd gen but call FP theyre very helpful
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 12:43 AM
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yes u will most likely need a double pumper on e85. i would go 1200cc injectors and a full blown double pumper!!
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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what do you mean by full blown double pumper? is there a diff than just a double walbro?
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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Full Blown makes a CNC's top hat fuel pump assembly, which is used instead of modifying the stock assembly. That is what is being described in the post above yours...
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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What size injectors do you currently have?

If you're on a budget, do the CBRD BBK instead. You'll end up spending about $400 less and make just as much power with better bottom-end; that's enough to do a ported exhaust manifold, o2 housing, and all new gaskets/copper washers.

You'll max out 1000cc injectors and single pump, but they'll definitely work. Do FIC 1250's and you'll have plenty of fuel.

Comparo of my car vs a friend's car, BBK vs RED:
http://www.scheides.com/gallery/evo-...6_30_2009_0011
(red line is BBK, green line is fp red)
boost plot:
http://www.scheides.com/gallery/evo-...6_30_2009_0012

So yea, no fancy oil lines or intakes needed, just a basic install kit.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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If you plan to do E85 you will need at least 1200cc injectors, you will need a form of a double pumper(he said budget), and if you don't have one I would go with a 3.5 IC only because of the altitude only because when heat soak takes place on a hot summers day the thin hot air will make the car feel like crap. I would also suggest you PM red owners like myself and tuners and ask what they would suggest. What are you HP goals, what do you do with the car....you have to ask yourself these questions too to make a good decision
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by scheides
Comparo of my car vs a friend's car, BBK vs RED:
http://www.scheides.com/gallery/evo-...6_30_2009_0011
(red line is BBK, green line is fp red)
boost plot:
http://www.scheides.com/gallery/evo-...6_30_2009_0012
scheides,

Can you list the mods of the two cars involved? I'm shopping around for a new turbo and I would like to start getting a good comparison going.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by scheides
If you're on a budget, do the CBRD BBK instead...

Comparo of my car vs a friend's car, BBK vs RED:
I think that Scheides is a BBK owner who loves his turbo and never misses a chance to diss a RED. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone else who would say that a BBK makes equivalent power to a RED... it just ain't so in the rest of the country...
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