How much WHP can hks dli handle?
I run 9.1@160 with an HKS dli and stock coils. Almost every car we do we use that setup and to date no issues.
Really I would use something else if there was an issue but we have never had any.
As for the reliability, of the units, I have seen one fail out of many and I think it got wet.
All the supra guys use them some even go 8s with them so nothing groundbreaking, it works.
I have seen alot more of the COP units fail, we dyno alot of cars.
Sean
Really I would use something else if there was an issue but we have never had any.
As for the reliability, of the units, I have seen one fail out of many and I think it got wet.
All the supra guys use them some even go 8s with them so nothing groundbreaking, it works.
I have seen alot more of the COP units fail, we dyno alot of cars.
Sean
Last edited by Sean@Iveytune; Oct 4, 2009 at 06:07 PM.
Personally if you do not have an ignition problem to start, you probably do not need to upgrade.
We have seen 600-700whp Evo's on stock coils. I find many people run out of ideas on what to buy for their car, so they upgrade the ignition without the need.
We have seen 600-700whp Evo's on stock coils. I find many people run out of ideas on what to buy for their car, so they upgrade the ignition without the need.
I run 9.1@160 with an HKS dli and stock coils. Almost every car we do we use that setup and to date no issues.
Really I would use something else if there was an issue but we have never had any.
As for the reliability, of the units, I have seen one fail out of many and I think it got wet.
All the supra guys use them some even go 8s with them so nothing groundbreaking, it works.
I have seen alot more of the COP units fail, we dyno alot of cars.
Sean
Really I would use something else if there was an issue but we have never had any.
As for the reliability, of the units, I have seen one fail out of many and I think it got wet.
All the supra guys use them some even go 8s with them so nothing groundbreaking, it works.
I have seen alot more of the COP units fail, we dyno alot of cars.
Sean
Have you tried a back to back test with COP? I could see your opinion being a little bias since you are an HKS Dealer
. I mean it may not be worth the 2x price for cars making 600 whp and under.. just my 2 cents.
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I use the dli and stock coil on my evo.
But you don't have to do what I do, buy whatever you want.
I have tested them back to back and I have seen no HP difference.
I may try the new AMS ignition system, looks totally revolutionary!
Sean
But you don't have to do what I do, buy whatever you want.
I have tested them back to back and I have seen no HP difference.
I may try the new AMS ignition system, looks totally revolutionary!
Sean
Last edited by Sean@Iveytune; Dec 19, 2009 at 12:53 PM.
Mike
for gods sake sean, how many times are you gonna get hit with the personal attacks against ya.....
between the intake manifold testing comment and this....
there is a difference between what works and what you recommend.
When I had my ignition issue, before AMS made there's of course, AMS said the only way to really fix this is for us to order a Buschur COP.
I was kinda shocked but just because one company sells a certain product doesn't mean that its the best ever and others don't work....
I thought it was really stand up for a company like AMS to figure out the issue and to recommend a buschur cop system.
If Sean runs this system, sells this system, and has great success with it, why wouldn't he push it. If they didn't work and failed all the time, why would he keep it? I know there were a lot of problems with the main boxes and such but geez no need to get on ones character.
between the intake manifold testing comment and this....
there is a difference between what works and what you recommend.
When I had my ignition issue, before AMS made there's of course, AMS said the only way to really fix this is for us to order a Buschur COP.
I was kinda shocked but just because one company sells a certain product doesn't mean that its the best ever and others don't work....
I thought it was really stand up for a company like AMS to figure out the issue and to recommend a buschur cop system.
If Sean runs this system, sells this system, and has great success with it, why wouldn't he push it. If they didn't work and failed all the time, why would he keep it? I know there were a lot of problems with the main boxes and such but geez no need to get on ones character.
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I feel that question is a little to vague. What ECU are you running? What turbo? What fuel? What heat range plugs? What are your power goals? I seem to remember somewhere that David developed his COP system because of the weak spark of the AEM system using the stock coils, I may be wrong, I have been before. I think the question should be a little more tailored to your car. For example on my personal car, I have the BR Cast GT3065 kit, stock MAF and ECU, built bottom end, upgraded springs and retainers and SS valves on an otherwise stock head, BR ported IM and TB, BR UICP and LICP, and I've never had a spark related failure with my HKS DLi. I'm also OCD about making sure it doesn't get wet. The only failure I've ever heard of personally was when someone used a pressure washer on their engine and water got in the box and connector.
Josh
Josh
maybe im a real idiot but why would the turbo and ECU matter to the ignition.....
i was on a ECU flash making 500 460/470 torque on 93 octane and meth and the HKS worked fine til about 4 months into it then the main box crapped out, swapped out with a new box and then the same thing happened.
i was on a ECU flash making 500 460/470 torque on 93 octane and meth and the HKS worked fine til about 4 months into it then the main box crapped out, swapped out with a new box and then the same thing happened.
Sean
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