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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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Fp Red Hotside...

sorry if this is a noob Q but i couldnt find any info... Does the FP Red come with the 10.5 upgraded hotside? Or do i have buy it sep. from my red to upgrade my 9.8? Thanks
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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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Ur question is confusing... are u trying to convert ur 8 into a red? If so, u cant. U need a 9 turbo... If ur buying a red outright, yes it has a 10.5 hotside and 9 compressor, unless u opt for an 80 or 84mm housing
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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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Ur question is confusing... are u trying to convert ur 8 into a red? If so, u cant. U need a 9 turbo... If ur buying a red outright, yes it has a 10.5 hotside and 9 compressor, unless u opt for an 80 or 84mm housing
there you go only a evo 9 turbo can be converted to any fp turbo. green red black here are both my brand new red and black for reference. both came with 10.5 hotside wastegate of your choosing 18psi or 25psi and the red you have a choice of 84mm housing or regular 64mm housing . before you ask the 84mm housing is to help surging of the turbo. The black automatically comes with a 84mm.

Ported fp black 84mm housing



you can even read it says 10.5 on the housing


Fp red 64mm housing

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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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did you buy it straight from FP ? looks sick
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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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did you buy it straight from FP ? looks sick
I think it looks very healthy if u ask me
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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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I think it looks very healthy if u ask me
go to sleep...
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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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FP can configure the Red with either the stock, 64mm IX compressor housing, or their proprietary FP 84mm anti-surge compressor housing. The Red comes standard with the 10.5cm turbine housing. However, upon customer request, FP would probably be willing to use the 9.8cm, instead of the usual 10.5cm turbine housing. At least, in the past, I recall that Robert had said that this was doable. In fact, he used to run a dinky 9.0cm housing on his personal, "Old-School Green.

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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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FP can configure the Red with either the stock, 64mm IX compressor housing, or their proprietary FP 84mm anti-surge compressor housing. The Red comes standard with the 10.5cm turbine housing. However, upon customer request, FP would probably be willing to use the 9.8cm, instead of the usual 10.5cm turbine housing. At least, in the past, I recall that Robert had said that this was doable. In fact, he used to run a dinky 9.0cm housing on his personal, "Old-School Green.
why the hell would you want to do that??
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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PR_DSM
did you buy it straight from FP ? looks sick
both of my turbos are brand new not used cores. I got my fp red from central flordia turbo waaaaaaaaaaaaaay under cost new . I got my fp black directly from Robert like 1 month after they released for a deal . Coating is done by Carlos at TCC
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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RockmanX
why the hell would you want to do that??
I don't know Rockster. You'll have to agree that it is possible though. I personally wouldn't put a 9.8 on a Red now. Although before I thought that it was a jiffy idea. However, I would like to see an HTA Green with a 9.8 housing....Don't ask me why though! I am just a curious SOB

EDIT: On a 2.4L stroker anything smaller than a 10.5 is ridiculous. However, the factory did configure the 16G turbo on the stock 2.OL engine with three different turbine housing options for various reasons.

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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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I don't know Rockster. You'll have to agree that it is possible though. I personally wouldn't put a 9.8 on a Red now. Although before I thought that it was a jiffy idea. However, I would like to see an HTA Green with a 9.8 housing....Don't ask me why though! I am just a curious SOB

EDIT: On a 2.4L stroker anything smaller than a 10.5 is ridiculous. However, the factory did configure the 16G turbo on the stock 2.OL engine with three different turbine housing options for various reasons.
yes sir!! BUT YOU KNOW WHICH ONE IS THE BETTER HOUSING. why downgrade. In some strange way i was thinking about getting a hta green go get my tq as high as my whp i know he black will produce more tq but according to what i been reading i will max the hta green out and it will be out of breathe on my 2.4 so waste of funds but i was thinking if i seriously start road coursing and mild autocross events once i move the more tq might help but then again by then im sure ill be comfortable with the black to make it do what it do but again i have never drove anything other then stock evo 8 turbo. lol i have owned all these turbos and never used them
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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 11:22 PM
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If I had your displacement and a Black, I would only run a fully ported 10.5 housing. On a stroker the 10.5 is the only and best choice.

On a 2Liter the 10.5 is still the best choice in 80% of the possible scenarios. The dinky 9.0 housing was designed especially for the Evo station wagon which weighed more and had an auto tranny. The 9.8 housing came stock on the JDM RS models which had really short gearing.

I have run all three housings and I agree with you that the 10.5 is the best. On a stroker motor it is the ONLY way to go. I ran the 9.0 hsg. on my Old Green and I lost 15 DLL HP between it and a 10.5. I didn't like the 9.0 and I don't know why Robert ran it on his Green.

Yeah, the 10.5 is best. Unless you drive in tight canyon roads with 100 yard straightaways. Then the 9.8cm housing might be a viable alternative. Even I wouldn't be crazy enough to suggest trying either of the two smaller housings on a stroker motivated Black though. Turbine pressure would be crazy.

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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 11:50 PM
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this is true how is the red treating you?? Got it fine tuned right yet
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Old Jun 19, 2010 | 12:37 AM
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The 9.0t housing first came on the evo4, they then moved to the 10.5t on the evo5-6, down to the 9.8t on the evo7-8 and back to the 10.5t on the evo8.5-9, so looks like mitsi themselves reckoned the 10.5t housing was better housing overall.
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Old Jun 19, 2010 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Yogi_B
The 9.0t housing first came on the evo4, they then moved to the 10.5t on the evo5-6, down to the 9.8t on the evo7-8 and back to the 10.5t on the evo8.5-9, so looks like mitsi themselves reckoned the 10.5t housing was better housing overall.
I guess that I was wrong about the 9.0 hsg being developed for the Evo wagon. I did not realize that it had been used on the IV before it was tried on the wagon I stand corrected. Thanks.
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