Man you are really an angry individual.... I bought the QT gas because it's convenient, it's guaranteed and it's advertised as 93 octane. So now I find that it's not as advertised. Oh well, live and learn. The Miami muffler exhaust is a good unit, well made and has nothing to do with the car detonating. I've learned my lesson about Quick Trip gasoline and posted a warning about it in the regional forums. I'll be getting my car sorted out later but you, my firend , are not going to get rid of you ****ty attitude. Too bad that all you can do is insult people and call names. You call me cheap & more just because I called you on your B.S. about Al... It's a funny joke when you once again go on with your R.I.P. = Dynoflash..... Dude, grow up.

 

I sgree there are a lot of cheap asses that want power and then fill up and then fill up with racetrack or some middle eastern store(not racist just little independent stores) To save a nickle a gallon I also love the people that think that EM because it leans it out will save them money on their daily commute when the car is in CL . I be damned if I show up at a dyno (butt or not) with blue light special gas whats wrong with people doesnt it make you furious that AL flew in to make you more power then you squandered it caus gas was too expensive

 

I am not angrey at all. I am very happy, you started this crap not me. I sent Al a PM and told him I was just kidding about that Motor, and why does that even matter? What did I say to you? You are cheap, why would you say you buy the worst gas, and a turbo timer wastes gas. Hell you even said that $100 for a dyno is not worth it, but pay someone to tune it on the street? How much power did you gain? You have NO IDEA right because you have NO baseline. Do your homework and spend the money to do it right or don't do it at all, or you can do it just have no idea of what is going on. I don't want to start a pissing match but you get what you pay for. Let's see your dyno here is mine 100% stock

 

Here is the link to my dyno. $100 is WELL worth it to know what's going on.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...highlight=dyno

 

Nice photoshop

 

<sigh>

Can't we all just get along?

 

Well, I guess if call me a cheap *** makes somebody happy, at least some good comes out of it anyway
For the record, I never said that $100 for a dyno session was not worth the money. The fact is that if Al had wanted to do his tuning in a dyno shop, I would have done it, no problem.
Al prefers doing his tuning in the street for a variety of reasons and I trust his judgement in this.
As far as the other stuff, it's all a matter of opinion and preference. I had a turbo timer before in my WRX and I found it to be inconvenient and just a waste of time and gasoline. I will not install a turbo timer in my car again because I don't like it.
I make a mistake about the gasoline because I believed their advertising. It is not my fault if Quick Trip misrepresents their products and sells bad gasoline as good. I was surprised and pissed off about but there was nothing to be done at that point.
I can avoid the Quick Trip products in the future but not retroactively. Besides, other brands could be substandard too... I'll find out where some of the other guys get their good gasoline and purchase it there in the future.
I'm not crying about the $600 that I paid Al for his work and his knowledge. Hell, I've spent lots of money on cars and other hobbies in the past and I'm not crying over any of it. To me this is just part of life and an education. I've always found education to be costly
The reason I started this thread was for educational purposes anyway. Maybe somebody else will learn to be more cautious with their fuel. If I had known this ahead of time I would have taken steps to prevent it. I know that people in the West Coast have problems because they cannot obtain 93 octane gasoline. I thought that a gasoline labeled as 93 octane would be adequate for the car, unfortunately this is not the case.

 

Stick with Chevron and Amaco. I have used them in my past 4 cars and have good luck with them. Also I try to goto stations that are busy and look newer. Should not be too hard to find them.

 

Hey guys - Play nicely !

BTW - you neglect to mention that ALL we did was pour in a little octane booster and then used up some gas and put in some Amacco 93 octane and we were able to get a very decent tune on his car.

He did not waste any $$$ as he now has a tune that is very close to our normal tunes - but with a little extra saftey margin built in.

Finally - on the reason why we like to tune on the street - on the dyno you get an hour and a half of dyno time along with our custom tune. on the street you get 3 hours !! Thats right TWICE the tuning time. So while you don;t get the dyno sheet - you do get a tune that is VERY carefully matched to your car under real world driving conditions and a real load.

While dynos are very good tools when used properly - they never EVER can duplicate the road's loading and wind resistance with 100% accuracy. Although we can get very good results on the dyno, the road is the best and most accurate way to tune. Of course NOT ALL locations have a suitable strech of roadway were we can do run after run at 40 - 80 mph over and over - but in those locations that have the appropriate roads we prefer to tune on the street.

BTW - I tune my car 100% on the street and every serious racer that I know also does street tuning.

As far as this poor guy goes - I was hoping he would use up his gas and we could give him a free re-tune at the end of the day - but sadly he started a boost controller project and that tied his car up for quiet a while and he could not do any driving.

Next time I am in town - he gets a free re-tune

BTW - 2 fast 2 furious - please do try and race the guy with the Buschur exhuast i dynoflashed yesterday with your Vishnu stuff (when you get it) - I think you will find out a lesson in watching the rear tail lights of a Dyno Flahed car

 

BTW - we found that Exxon, BP, Amaco and Shell 93 ocatne in Atlanta were great fuels

THE QT gas was the worst we have ever seen

On his stock car it was detonating real bad with about 1 degrees of timing - real bad gas

 

You would be suprized man - I got the T-bird b/c I wanted to see why they were going to stop selling them

Its a great car - having owned 2 Sl500's and a SL600 in the past - the T-bird is every bit as good a car as those

And it was very quick - I was able to pull away from a stock NON Dynoflashed Evo up a long highway on ramp to 90 mph - it was a decent ride

Of course - I wouldnt trade my evo for anything - but it was nice to get some sun on my bald head for a change

Can not believe they are stopping to make that T-bird - with a supercharger and a 4 speed manual trans it would be a kick *** whip

 

Only gases I will put in my car are Exxon, Sunoco, Shell, Amaco and Mobil 1.

Hey Al, are you heading to NJ anytime in the future or planning on any dynodays/street tune days up where you are?

 

lol, come on Al he better have over 350WHP to take me, my car made 240 stock to the wheels. I think his flashed car MAYBE 300 not any more, andway whonose there was no dyno.

 

So you tuned the car with octane booster, adding more timing as you went along. So what happens when the octane booster runs out and they are back to regular gas again with this aggressive tune?

 

first of all, this "aggressive tune" is not as "aggressive" as the rest of the cars got the same day. Secondly (and most importantly) I'm never going back to that gasoline again. If you read all the previous posts, you'll see that the whole thread is about the problems caused by bad gasoline. My experience and that of another guy is that Quick Trip gasoline is substandard in some way and causes detonation. The other premium gasolines used in the other cars, did not cause detonation and indeed were able to be tuned more "aggressively" without any detonation and with great results. Al knows what he is doing and he definitely does not want to tune a car anywhere near the edge of safety.