Been talking about it back and forth with a buddy of mine and I like the idea of early spool but some people he knows personally are having small problems with the wet kits and e85.

To give you an idea of my car, it will be a 2.0L build with a 6765 shooting for 800hp on e85 of course.

I would like the benefits of the quick spool and I am running AEM EMS and I know about the extra parameters in AEM for nitrous.

Just want to hear of personal experiences with E85 and nitrous. I am a NOOB to nitrous.


Thanks again fellas for any help!

 

From many of the high hp Evo's I've seen, none of them run on nitrous. An example would be the STM and AWDmotorsports built evo's. Straight e85 and pushing over 500+hp. Maybe some of them can chime in for you.

 

do you already have the turbo setup in hand? If not I would wait a little bit for results on the new Borg Warner efr series.

 

already have my turbo set-up and build coming along. it was just a last minute thing as we are putting the car back together. just wanting to hear what other ppl thought of it..

 

There is no need to run Nitrous on an Evo. You can make your power goals without it. And dont worry about nitrous to increase spool. If you are shooting for those numbers, then you will have a motor powerful enough to spool the turbo fairly quick. But look at Buschur, ETS, AMS, they dont run nitrous. Put the money towards something that you actually need man.

 

I am not trying to increase power with nitrous. Just trying to support power down low. I know there are a lot of evo's out there that are making the power I want with my exact set-up.

The nitrous will be more for street application to get that early boost.

 

Completely poinltess in my opinion

 

n20 is very 'old school'.. The quick boys dont use it at all these days. No point!

 

I guess I should've clarified that I'm looking more towards technical/tuning experiences and problems, not personal opinions whether or not to use it.

Thanks for the opinions though!

 

Can a mod please move this to the water-meth/nitrous thread? Never noticed we had that section

 

they are right that most of the big shops dont use it or even alot of people but it still has its place i wanna use it for my hta3586 for when the boost starts to drop off up top so i could still hang with the 67mm guys TakaseEVOIXSE knos of a setup just like what i want pm him for details on it good luck just remember its going to be alot harder on your motor.

 

A lot of big shops don't use it because they are trying to compare apples to apples numbers. Personally I think Nitrous has it's place. It allows you to slip the clutch and not launch near has hard and spray off the line for fast spool. If anything it helps keep the car together and provides a nice gradual acceleration instead of having to come out of the hole at 6k-7k

We have several street cars in our area that use large turbochargers. PT6765, GT42R and spray to get what feels like instant spool on the street. Most of these cars will never go to the track or track times due to the anti nitrous crowd on the forums.

If you go to any other forum Nitrous is very acceptable and widely used, but when it comes to the Mitsubishi and Subaru world it's frowned upon. When I build another street car you will bet I will have a small shot for instant spool

Thanks,

Michael

 

mrboost05:
Tom (TakaseEVOIXSE) is "my buddy" that I've been talking to back and forth about nitrous and was the one that kinda caught my eye on the subject. And to be honest, I think anything we are doing PAST factory is harder on our motors.

This is a very expensive hobby, but you gotta pay to play right! Definitely took the "hurt" of the nitrous into consideration. It will definitely only be used for ease of launch and quick spool every once-in-a-while.

With the AEM EMS, you can control the parameters (ie. Engagement, timing, fuel, and cut-off).

From what I understand about nitrous, is that you want a solid mix between fuel/nitrous and cut-off a bit before redline to reduce the chances of "n20 backfire".

My main question is, how hard was it for someone that has done nitrous with e85, since the foggers are made for gasoline(not ethanol).


ETS Michael:
Very valid points, and thanks for the support, lol. Hopefully I can share my experiences with you when I get nitrous hooked up to my monster. Or maybe one of your guys will chime in?

P.S, ran one of your IC kits on my previous set-up and it was awesome! Props to you and the ETS crew.

 

I personally wouldnt do it. I think its a waste. But you will not be frowned upon for doing it. If you do go this route, make sure you post up some results. Im sure we all would interested regardless.

 

yea i agree gotta pay to play and you are already on right track i always ask for my machine work guy to leave my motor alittle loose when i plan on adding n20 glad you plan on using aem i wouldent dare try on the stock ecu.

boostwhore not trying to single you out but any reason why you think its Completely poinltess ? alot of thease stock frame turbo cars could really use it for when they start to taper up in the rpms.