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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 12:09 AM
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Hydraulic Release Bearing ...

Hi everyone, help me please....
Since i have (Will have - Nick) Carbonetic with push style cover , i decided to pull out stock clutch release cylinder since it worn out, and change to Hydraulic TOB ...
After a searching all over internet i've got some questions -

1. According to Tilton Clutches - they uses P/N 61-9002 or 61-9012 HTOBs, but if we look further at the Tilton web site, we find that these TOBs - http://www.tiltonracing.com/content....st2&id=483&m=d seems very different from what QuarterMaster offer


2. According to QuarterMaster - they uses 4 bolt 710-series HydraTOB for 5-speed trans (p/n 710045), these HRBs used by Spec Clutches also ...



So my question is - What should i have of these, to working with my Carbonetic and 5-speedgearbox ? And where to buy?


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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 06:45 AM
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http://www.definedusa.com/catalog/pr...ts_id=10000264

not sure why you would want hydro in trans though. I would stay external slave.

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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 05:58 PM
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hey guys, sorry to bump an old thread.
I am currently running the Carbonetics triple and just recently ordered a Quartermaster hydraulic release bearing (p/n 710045). My question is, would I have to shim it so it makes proper contact? If so, how many shims/thickness? I also called Carbonetics and spoke with a tech who told me to make sure the travel is right and to not "overthrow" the bearing into the pressure plate which may cause damage to the fingers on the pressure plate. So how would I adjust the throw/travel distance for the HRB?
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-Jesse
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 05:12 AM
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Mine just bolted in and worked perfect with the Blade clutch, so much better than the abortion/contraption/conversion.
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 05:43 AM
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The good news is that the quartermaster tob will most likely bolt right on and be perfect. The bad news is that if, for some reason its not, you have to drop the trans back out to do anything about it. I'm not sure if the carbonetics has a different total height from the quartermaster, though, so you may be in for a day of fun..
Either way, do not forget to install a pedal stop. Without one, you risk over extending the pressure plate spring and damaging the pressure plate, as well as potentially bending the clutch discs into uselessness.
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by THUB
The good news is that the quartermaster tob will most likely bolt right on and be perfect. The bad news is that if, for some reason its not, you have to drop the trans back out to do anything about it. I'm not sure if the carbonetics has a different total height from the quartermaster, though, so you may be in for a day of fun..
Either way, do not forget to install a pedal stop. Without one, you risk over extending the pressure plate spring and damaging the pressure plate, as well as potentially bending the clutch discs into uselessness.
I was also worried it would not work with the Carbonetic but took the chance, it's only a couple of hours work lost if it didn't work.
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 06:08 AM
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I would also be sure that the tob contacts the pressure plate in the same way as the carbonetics one would. I feel like I remember reading that the quartermasyer tob was special for some reason.
Also, am I trying to give advice to the curt brown who could probably put a Mitsubishi branded tricycle into the tens, on a stock turbo? because that would make me feel a little bit ridiculous.
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by THUB
Either way, do not forget to install a pedal stop. Without one, you risk over extending the pressure plate spring and damaging the pressure plate, as well as potentially bending the clutch discs into uselessness.
Would I just be able to adjust the clutch pedal from inside the car by the rod with the 10mm nut?
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jessmanEVO
Would I just be able to adjust the clutch pedal from inside the car by the rod with the 10mm nut?
i asked that same question in another thread and the answer is no. you still need a pedal stop. here is a link to a homemade one.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...edal-stop.html
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 10:03 AM
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i asked that same question in another thread and the answer is no. you still need a pedal stop. here is a link to a homemade one.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...edal-stop.html
Thanks for the link. Pictures aren't working but I can imagine it with the description.
Also, how would you determine what is acceptable travel for the release bearing onto the fingers of the pressure plate? How do you know you're not over extending the pressure plate spring?

-Jesse
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jessmanEVO
Thanks for the link. Pictures aren't working but I can imagine it with the description.
Also, how would you determine what is acceptable travel for the release bearing onto the fingers of the pressure plate? How do you know you're not over extending the pressure plate spring?

-Jesse
good question, i would also like to know how to set it all up as i have a quartermaster going in very soon.
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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good question, i would also like to know how to set it all up as i have a quartermaster going in very soon.
I lifted all 4 wheels off the ground and had someone push in the clutch slowly, while I attempted to turn the driveshaft by hand. (the car is left in gear obviously) I adjusted the stop until there was about 1/4-1/2 an inch of travel after the clutch released.
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven
I lifted all 4 wheels off the ground and had someone push in the clutch slowly, while I attempted to turn the driveshaft by hand. (the car is left in gear obviously) I adjusted the stop until there was about 1/4-1/2 an inch of travel after the clutch released.
whats with the bag of shims that come with the throw out bearing?
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 06:29 AM
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Quartermaster told me that they most likely would not be needed unless the flywheel is machined. They told me to take the measurements listed on the instructions and do the calculation to ensure everything was machined properly. Mine actually came out slightly below the minimum clearance so no shims were required. I bought a billet clutch pedal stop from IndyEvo. The pedal travel and engagement feel great. I slightly lengthened the clutch pedal rod about 1 full turn to take out some freeplay in the pedal.
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