Help: AFR Dip at Peak Boost. Why?
If 1byte load was at the stock scaling (1.2) then I suppose pretty much all he had to do to figure out his real 1byte load is add 306 to whatever load he was seeing after passing the limit where it "resets" at 0.
1.) I'm hitting peak boost (around 27 psi)
2.) Duty cycle is dropping and the wastegate is opening
3.) My Synapse DV is fluttering
4.) AFRs are dropping rich by almost a full point (12.0 -> 11.0) and then they go back up to 11.8 or so
Here's a graph from 3rd gear pulls from this morning and afternoon. Ignore the power outputs because I don't think the stretch of roads were exactly the same. The Red line was a pull that I did before work and the Green line was after work with fuel raised where the dip is. Obviously the dip isn't as drastic but it's still there, which makes me think that it's still something mechanical. The DV is also still fluttering at peak boost on both pulls and I can see the needle on the boost gauge fluttering as well. I'll also mention that the Red Line had the Synapse in Pull mode and the Green Line had the Synapse in Push mode which I think explains why boost in the green line is little lower.

Red Line Log

Red Line Fuel Map

Green Line Log

Green Line Fuel Map

Same WGDC Map for both pulls
Red Line Log
Red Line Fuel Map
Green Line Log
Green Line Fuel Map
Same WGDC Map for both pulls
The only time i ever had flutter issues with a bov, was always during partial throttle.
how do you have your bov plumbed / getting it's boost source?
can you post a picture of it? sometimes pics reveal a lot more than a simple description.
how do you have your bov plumbed / getting it's boost source?
can you post a picture of it? sometimes pics reveal a lot more than a simple description.
Last edited by Aby@MIL.SPEC; Sep 6, 2011 at 10:41 PM.
Your fuel map could use some work... the green run is way to lean... also if you look you are trying to drop almost an entire AFR point at 3400 RPM in both logs... smooth that transition some more and see if that helps... Can we also see an 3d snapshot of the fuel map?
Your fuel map could use some work... the green run is way to lean... also if you look you are trying to drop almost an entire AFR point at 3400 RPM in both logs... smooth that transition some more and see if that helps... Can we also see an 3d snapshot of the fuel map?

I can try to get a pic up in a little bit. Right now my wife is using my computer with that ROM on it.
Here's a graph from 3rd gear pulls from this morning and afternoon. Ignore the power outputs because I don't think the stretch of roads were exactly the same. The Red line was a pull that I did before work and the Green line was after work with fuel raised where the dip is. Obviously the dip isn't as drastic but it's still there, which makes me think that it's still something mechanical.
r u running a egr blocking plate?
whats causing the bov to loose its boost source/supply?
can you post a pic looking @ your plenum, fuel rail fuel pressure regulator feed line?
have you eliminated your egr lines, crap behind the plenum, etc?
Last edited by Aby@MIL.SPEC; Sep 7, 2011 at 11:56 AM.
i havent tuned, let alone looked @ the oem ecu, but can you log all trims / corrections + fuel maps referenced when doing a pull? I also dont know the logging rate capabilities, as the ecu maybe bouncing from from 1 map or another or apply some hideous amount of fuel correction for a brief period of time, based on a boost spike that the ecu is seeing. can you filter the load signal to the ecu or how the ecu percieves load?
the only way for the bov to flutter, is that the boost source keeping the bov closed is fluctuating or the feed line to the bov has a leak.
r u running a egr blocking plate?
whats causing the bov to loose its boost source/supply?
can you post a pic looking @ your plenum, fuel rail fuel pressure regulator feed line?
have you eliminated your egr lines, crap behind the plenum, etc?
the only way for the bov to flutter, is that the boost source keeping the bov closed is fluctuating or the feed line to the bov has a leak.
r u running a egr blocking plate?
whats causing the bov to loose its boost source/supply?
can you post a pic looking @ your plenum, fuel rail fuel pressure regulator feed line?
have you eliminated your egr lines, crap behind the plenum, etc?







